submitted on January 17, 2024 11:37 AM EST |
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Sarah Nold |
Email Address: |
Slynne6@gmail.com |
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Hello, I am a parishioner at Magdalen Catholic Church. We found out yesterday that Vorlker is being assigned to our parish
beginning 2/1. Im so very sorry for what happened to you, I had no idea until yesterday. Please let me know what I can do
to help be a part of ending this issue. |
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submitted on August 21, 2019 1:55 PM EDT |
Name: |
Car accident lawyer atl |
Email Address: |
Blakedaniel123321@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
https://schneiderhammers.com/atlanta/car-accident-lawyers/ |
Comments: |
Great Website |
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google |
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submitted on December 31, 2016 8:38 PM EST |
Name: |
Di |
Email Address: |
hi.brix.di@gmail.com |
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7 10 16 message by "Jack" sure looks like it might actually be by the priest he is defending.
interesting site, gave me lots to think about. i am comming to grips with various forms of abuse in rc and several other
rel trads. |
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online research re clergy abuse of adults. |
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submitted on July 10, 2016 8:31 AM EDT |
Name: |
Jack |
Email Address: |
Adidasoccerboy_02@yahoo.com |
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Fr. Jeff Fasching is not a predator. Where do you get this information? Based on an accusation with no proof? His leave of
absence was to complete an MBA as well as be a case worker for the State of Missouri. Please remove his name, this is truly
sad that his name would be on this list, especially with no background information as to why. |
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submitted on December 21, 2015 10:33 PM EST |
Name: |
Rev Anne Stephenson |
Email Address: |
annestephenson@clear.net.nz |
Web site URL: |
rev anne stephenson- clerical sexual abuse ministry |
Comments: |
HiPeggy,
I ma writing a book about clergy sexual abuse and raising the same issues as you are. Can I please publish some of your articles
in my book naming you as the source. |
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On the web |
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submitted on June 28, 2015 4:42 PM EDT |
Name: |
Debra Tucker |
Email Address: |
D.Tucker433@Comcast.net |
Web site URL: |
Comcast |
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Father Dave Hellman from Indiana has been moved back to Muncie,Indiana. |
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I saw it moves of all the priests in the Lafayette diocese. |
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submitted on June 25, 2015 11:27 PM EDT |
Name: |
Gerri Stowman |
Email Address: |
wgstow@prtel.com |
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Peggy, do you know what is happening with Kansas legislation that adds the following section to the statutes on unlawful sexual
relations?
(11) the offender is a member of the clergy and the person with whom
the offender is engaging in consensual sexual intercourse, lewd fondling
or touching is acting as a member of the clergy carrying out the clergy
members pastoral duties.
Thanks!
Gerri Stowman |
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Googling clergy abuse of adults |
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submitted on June 17, 2015 6:56 PM EDT |
Name: |
Anita Snow |
Email Address: |
asnow740@gmail.com |
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Comments: |
I am a 42 year old woman who worked at our Methodist church as the Director of Children, Youth, and Families. I worked for
the church for 7 years. I confessed to what I thought was an "affair" with our Lead Pastor on May 7, 2015. Thankfully my husband
of 18 years, heard the Holy Spirit tell him there was more to my story and forgiveness and grace washed over him. He started
researching and found information that clearly described my situation, Clergy Sexual Abuse. I later found a research study
by a Baylor University professor called, When Wolves Wear Shepherds Clothes, which described my last year. As all other information
describes, my family and I have been exiled from our church of over 20 years, it has been suggested that it would be better
for my restoration to leave my position, and to top it all off... the lead pastor committed suicide on May 22. The depth of
my pain greater than I could imagine. I am blessed to have a loving and supportive husband who God is using in extraordinary
ways. Thank you for this website, it is a comfort to know I am not alone. |
How did you hear about this site? |
Googling Clergy Abuse of adult women |
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submitted on February 17, 2015 6:05 PM EST |
Name: |
Anne Stephenson (Rev) |
Email Address: |
annestephenson@clear.net.nz |
Web site URL: |
realtyrev.co.nz |
Comments: |
I have a website and would like to publish the article as a resource.
"Educating to end abuse". I would also like it published in our Church newspaper although it would need editing. Do you give
copyrite permission? Many thanks Anne |
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My own checking out of information on the web |
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submitted on December 31, 2014 11:43 PM EST |
Name: |
Michael Ehline |
Email Address: |
michael@ehlinelaw.com |
Web site URL: |
http://www.ehlinelaw.com |
Comments: |
I represent abused kids and elders and I really liked the editorials and stories on your site. I would be interested in learning
more about how I can help? |
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Google |
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submitted on November 11, 2014 1:22 PM EST |
Name: |
Kevin O'Brien |
Email Address: |
kevin@thewordinc.org |
Web site URL: |
www.thewordinc.org |
Comments: |
Hi, Peggy. Your story illustrates so much of what is wrong with the Church, and with what bad bishops and bad priests can
do to it. I wrote a long blog post inspired by your story ... http://thwordinc.blogspot.com/2014/11/hypocrisy-trust-and-christian-challenge.html |
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submitted on June 28, 2014 11:56 PM EDT |
Name: |
Jennifer Herrick |
Email Address: |
docjen59@gmail.com |
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Comments: |
This site seems to have stalled? just google my name. |
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submitted on March 11, 2014 2:15 AM EDT |
Name: |
Rachel |
Email Address: |
rasberry0708@gmail.com |
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Amazing. I would love to speak with you. I too have adult priest abuse history with this diocese. |
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web search |
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submitted on March 21, 2013 5:44 AM EDT |
Name: |
Roy |
Email Address: |
royijams@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
A book that I read is Out of the Shadows. It says many take the secret of abuse with them to the grave. If I tell my story
many life's would be effected. I tried to end mine. And we have a school system that is teaching sex ed. And kids don't know
where food comes from. I've even heard they are passing out condoms to kids in kindergarten. It wound be impossible for me
to die on the cross for the crimes I'm aware of.. So thanks be to GOD there is a plan. The Roadless Traveled and People of
the Lie are Books by Scott Peck that helped me build self-esteem. Also listening to the New testament while I was driving.
Next to Christ dying for me my Wife of 30yrs has been my saving grace. To love one another. I know that the love that brings
healing works. |
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Google |
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submitted on March 21, 2013 5:38 AM EDT |
Name: |
Roy |
Email Address: |
royijams@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
A book that I read is Out of the Shadows. It says many take the secret of abuse with them to the grave. If I tell my story
many life's would be effected. I tried to end mine. And we have a school system that is teaching sex ed. And kids don't know
where food comes from. I've even heard they are passing out condoms to kids in kindergarten. It wound be impossible for me
to die on the cross for the crimes I'm aware of.. So thanks be to GOD there is a plan. The Roadless Traveled and People of
the Lie are Books by Scott Peck that helped me uild self-esteem. Also listening to the New testament while I was driving.
Next to Christ dying for me my Wife of 30yrs has been my saving grace. To love one another. I know that the love that brings
healing works. |
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Google |
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submitted on March 7, 2013 10:29 PM EST |
Name: |
b------ |
Email Address: |
richardbonnie@att.net |
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any one know any thing about now vicor general-Henry alex Larroque- of the doicese of Lafayette La? He had a relationship
with a family member of mine- very intimate in nature- it makes me wonder how a priest can get away with this with a adult
woman? it was in the 1950's and 1960's |
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web |
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submitted on July 16, 2012 11:27 PM EDT |
Name: |
ELHG |
Email Address: |
elhgillespie@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
http://my-birds-eyeview.blogspot.com/ |
Comments: |
I am writing a blog about my experiences dealing with clergy abuse. The Blog is called Bird's Eye View. Perhaps it can help
someone else. |
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It was included in a list of resources on another site. |
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submitted on July 6, 2012 6:11 PM EDT |
Name: |
Karen Croci |
Email Address: |
karencroci@yahoo.com |
Web site URL: |
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/983/755/643/defrock-charles-michael-abdelahad/ |
Comments: |
A Worcester, MA Antiochian Orthodox priest was convicted on May 25, 2012 of assault and battery (biting his victim) and assault
and batter with a deadly weapon, a shod foot. His name is Charles Michael Abdelahad. His church's leader, Philip Saliba, has
a history of retaining sexually abusive priests and bishops and putting them back into parishes when they are released from
prison. Would you consider signing this petition to help support the victim? Thank you! |
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Search |
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submitted on February 15, 2012 3:16 PM EST |
Name: |
Enduring Space |
Email Address: |
krallre@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
http://ruthkrall.com |
Comments: |
I have released a new book about clerical sexual abuse, it is a free download available from a link on my site. It is intended
to help people understand the concepts associated with clerical abuse. There are abstracts of chapters on the download page
so that you can browse subject matter first. Vol II will be case studies. |
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Google search |
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submitted on November 26, 2011 10:33 PM EST |
Name: |
Alexandra Roberts |
Email Address: |
alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
I hadn't checked this for awhile and noticed response to question I posted long ago. Please feel free to write to me offline
at email address cited in this message if you're interested in my book project. Peggy, noticed you dropped off Facebook. Please
write to me offline. I was in the middle of a move after my mother died, along with trying to help sell her house. My life
is settled again, so I can get back to focusing on advocacy and writing. Hope all is well with everyone here. |
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submitted on November 8, 2011 8:42 AM EST |
Name: |
charyl |
Email Address: |
cgracehappens@aol.com |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com/id23.html |
Comments: |
Please delete my personal information from your website, it is preventing me from getting hired! Please, please, please!!!!!!!! |
How did you hear about this site? |
when I googled my own name! |
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submitted on October 8, 2011 11:00 PM EDT |
Name: |
bonnie |
Email Address: |
richardbonnie@att.net |
Web site URL: |
n/a |
Comments: |
alexandrea-- i would like to be includedin your book let me know what to doo send me questions etc |
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web |
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submitted on September 7, 2011 12:39 PM EDT |
Name: |
Alexandra Roberts |
Email Address: |
alrspassion@aol.com |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
Hi Peggy, All, I am working on a book that I hope to complete by the end of November. It is about Catholic clerics' abuse
and exploitation of adult women and will include my own story. I am developing a questionaire for those who would like their
story to be part of the book, anonymously or by name. Your choice. I cannot, however, promise that all questionaires or stories
will used. If you are interested in receiving a questionaire when it is completed, please contact me at email address. Peggy,
I definitely want to include you, your website, work with NOW, etc. |
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submitted on August 7, 2011 2:53 PM EDT |
Name: |
Hutchinson Catholic |
Email Address: |
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Comments: |
Peggy, I'd be interested to know what comments St. Teresa's members have made to you about Voelker. |
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submitted on February 7, 2011 5:26 PM EST |
Name: |
Alexandra Roberts |
Email Address: |
alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
Hi Peggy, All, I've not posted for a long time in part because I moved, and then became busy with caring for my mother who
is in the latter stages of Alzheimer's. I have only recently begun to reemerge on discussion boards to discuss clergy abuse,
and am in the middle of writing a (long-overdue) book besides. I've also revived a private online support group for women
abused by priests after two female victims of priests were referred to me. I just set the group up and want to an extend an
invitation to those who'd like to join. This is exclusively for female victims and by invitation, only, in that I would have
to send anyone an invitation for them to gain access. If you're interested, please write to me c/o the email address that's
with this message. Thank you. |
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submitted on December 12, 2010 5:23 PM EST |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Kristi, Thank you for your kind words. I am sorry about your abuse and you can absolutely add my website! Thanks and happy
holidays! |
How did you hear about this site? |
me |
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submitted on December 12, 2010 3:23 PM EST |
Name: |
Kristi Schiroo |
Email Address: |
kristi.schiroo@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
www.healclergyabuse.com |
Comments: |
Thank you for your wonderful website. As an adult survivor of clergy sexual abuse I am always looking for information and
connections. May I add your site to my list of resources? |
How did you hear about this site? |
searching the web |
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submitted on November 21, 2010 11:10 PM EST |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Kristi, Thank you for signing my guestbook. Wishing you continued healing and peace on this evolutionary journey - you will
come out of this a better, stronger person than you ever imagined. |
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me |
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submitted on November 21, 2010 11:00 PM EST |
Name: |
bonny |
Email Address: |
n/a |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
hi kristi-- a good web site to go to is
www.masskids.org---i wrote a book on true sexual abuse experiences-maybe you could purchase one e-book-- www.sexual abuse
defined.com-- |
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pag |
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submitted on November 17, 2010 3:41 PM EST |
Name: |
Kristi Schiroo |
Email Address: |
kristi.schiroo@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
Thank you for your website. As a survivor of clergy sexual abuse I continue to search for healing, help, and understanding. |
How did you hear about this site? |
book: Understanding the Abuse of Adults |
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submitted on November 5, 2010 9:40 AM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Amy, I am sorry to hear of your abuse, but relieved to know that you have finally come to the realization that it was not
your fault, sure could have we done things differently, absolutely, hindsight is always 20/20 but we can not live in the past
and the 'what ifs'. He was the one with the authority, he knew what he was doing was wrong and he did it anyway, I hope your
state is a state that prosecutes clergy that take advantage of those they are suppose to be serving! Peace and healing, Peggy |
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me |
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submitted on November 5, 2010 12:05 AM EDT |
Name: |
Amy |
Email Address: |
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Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
Thanks for putting this together. I had an "affair" with my pastor while I was his intern. It took me more than six years
to get out of this relationship and when I finally did, I worked to so hard to "take responsibility" for my own actions--and
everybody let me! Nobody told me it was his fault. I was 24 and he was 29. I always thought it was my fault and it was
consensual. It touches a deep part of my heart to have somebody tell me it was really abuse. Its hard to hear that and really
believe it. Thank you for all your work. |
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google |
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submitted on October 18, 2010 1:14 PM EDT |
Name: |
bonny |
Email Address: |
n/a |
Web site URL: |
n/a |
Comments: |
can someone tell me what is A SECULAR PRIEST? |
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submitted on October 4, 2010 4:48 PM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
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Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Bonnie, I am sorry and you are right, unfortunately predators never stop. |
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submitted on October 4, 2010 12:10 PM EDT |
Name: |
bonny |
Email Address: |
richardbonnie@att.net |
Web site URL: |
www.sexualabusedefined.com |
Comments: |
well --i finally found out what it is like for a criminal to get away with sadistic abuse--a nun who abused me at age 6 to
45 will get off and probably do it to others because i waited too long to talk to a lawyer --the trauma is enough to silence
me forever--does anyone understand??? I canNOT DO ANYTHING--BUT WRITE TO OTHERS-- |
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web site |
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submitted on July 7, 2010 7:44 AM EDT |
Name: |
Hutch Moshier |
Email Address: |
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Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
No email. Send me your address please. I think you might be interested in yet another person's experience and resulting evolution. |
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A disgrunteled parishoner at St. |
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submitted on June 30, 2010 2:32 PM EDT |
Name: |
Monica |
Email Address: |
amjcpam@yahoo.com |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
I notice the name of Anthony Oelrich of the diocese of St. Cloud on your list of abusers. Could you tell me any more in relation
to abuse from him? I am very concerned about several incidents involving him. |
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online |
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submitted on June 18, 2010 10:03 AM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Holly, I am sorry you are still in so much pain. Trust that the pain with eventually subside. This nightmare will have an
end and you will come out of it stronger than you ever imagined surrounded by people who know about true love and loyalty.
Peace and healing, Peggy |
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me |
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submitted on June 18, 2010 12:43 AM EDT |
Name: |
holly |
Email Address: |
holly_c222@yahoo.com |
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Comments: |
i am the victim in one of the stories you have about adult abuse. the abuse began 6 years ago and ended 4 years ago. i have
been in weekly plus therapy for 3 1/2 years with a great therapist who works with these sick priests. she is my only safe
place. my family and i have suffered beyond words from loss of family, friends, jobs, once our lawsuit was filed in april
2008. we have been judged over and over. called names, mental stability questioned and endless hurtful words and actions
toward us. we have grabbed our children and those who love us despite our failings and stuck together through this nightmare.
and it is horrible and feels like it will never end. our case is still in the court system although the diocese has spent
over 2 years offering pathetic settlements. the pain and the guilt never leave. i hear what people say and know my role,
but it so very horrible they and this priest cannot accept their responsibility. they would like the world to believe i did
all of this. which is impossible. the pain never ends for us. |
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internet |
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submitted on May 18, 2010 6:58 PM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Alexandra,
Thank you for letting us know about the priest that is demanding honesty from the Vatican. If the church has any chance to
survive, GOOD priests will have to step forward and demand that changes be made |
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me |
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submitted on May 18, 2010 6:55 PM EDT |
Name: |
p |
Email Address: |
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submitted on May 18, 2010 6:54 PM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Thank you to whomever is keeping us up to date on Fasching. |
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me |
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submitted on May 18, 2010 6:51 PM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Dear Hope,
Thank you for signing my guest book and being so courageous to speak so candidly about your feelings towards Voelker. Many,
many people email me privately about him but are not brave enough to write their true feelings on my website. Thank you for
your kind words, it means the world to me to have support from fellow Catholics. The only thing I can say to you is what
I have said to the parishioners from his parish in Hutchinson is to contact Msgr. Hemberger or Bishop Jackels and ask that
Voelker be removed and also stop tithing, give your money to other needy causes, God will not look down on you for that.
I am sorry to hear of your own experience with a psychopath; whether it is a priest, doctor, teacher, or 'boyfriend', they
can do major damage to the people they prey upon. Thanks again and take care of yourself, Peggy
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me |
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submitted on May 17, 2010 7:25 PM EDT |
Name: |
hope vogel |
Email Address: |
hopetvogel@gmail.com |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
I found your site from a link posted on topix.com. Your story brought me to tears because I am also a member of SEAS and
it hit close to home. I've never been abused by a priest but I certainly know it happens. Fr. Nick is a psychopath! And
i'd like to tell him thhat he's not even good looking! Seriously, what a nut. And then it hit me that it occurred a few
years ago and our kids are probably around the same age. And then it hit me like a ton of bricks--MADDI WARREN. Your Maddi
and my Maddy are friends and that brings it even closer to home. I was in a relationship with a narcissistic psychopath for
8 months and it had taken about 8 months to get myself back to normal. He of course didnt have the added power of being my
priest! I'm glad you have this website and I hope you continue to help people. Please don't let him destroy your faith
in God. |
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submitted on May 5, 2010 11:37 AM EDT |
Name: |
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Email Address: |
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Comments: |
And now Jeffery Fasching is in the Diocese of Springfield/Cape Girardeau, being moved from SEAS parish to St. Agnes parish. |
How did you hear about this site? |
google |
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submitted on April 24, 2010 10:42 AM EDT |
Name: |
the author--(pen name) |
Email Address: |
n/a |
Web site URL: |
www.sexualabusedefined.com |
Comments: |
peggy --hope you will put my book on your books for sale--I wrote one.
and i would like all to know.
It is sexual abuse defined-bondage it is time to tell
It can be bought at xlibris corp
1663 liberty dr suite 200
Bloomington In 47403
1-888-795-4274
The e book is the less expensive
please buy it is has sexual abuse,emotional abuse and other kinds of abuse many pictures--
I thank you |
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n/a |
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submitted on April 23, 2010 7:23 AM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Janet, Great to hear you are working on legislation in PA! The best state legislation to refer to when talking to legislators
about proposed bills in your state is Minnesota. Keep up the great work! |
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me |
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submitted on April 23, 2010 7:20 AM EDT |
Name: |
Peggy |
Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
Comments: |
Genny, I am glad you found the website helpful - hope you are well - take care of yourself - you are your first priority!
Peggy |
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me |
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submitted on April 23, 2010 7:11 AM EDT |
Name: |
genny dumay |
Email Address: |
smgenny@yahoo.com |
Web site URL: |
http://svcs.myregisteredsite.com/svcs/dcc.jsp?tpage=http://www.educatingtoendabuse.com/id6.html&dsrc=gb:9113695564624243577/DS_TLXGuestbook_1174420578023.xml&partner=inldspear&pcon=yes&xsl=dccfile:gb.xsl&obpp=blDe2trOXurEzlraytTKxObuUN5ezlrm6sTiZm5sYmJy&ret_url=http://www.educatingtoendabuse.com/id6.html&page=sign |
Comments: |
thanks for this web. It's very helpful. I agree to all your write-ups about clergy abuse. |
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saw it at another website...take courage |
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submitted on April 21, 2010 6:51 PM EDT |
Name: |
Janet E MacDonald |
Email Address: |
jmacdona2@aol.com |
Web site URL: |
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Comments: |
I would like to talk to you about state laws. My adult daughter was abused and I am meeting with my PA senator to discuss
Pennsylvania Law. |
How did you hear about this site? |
My daughter |
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submitted on April 15, 2010 7:06 PM EDT |
Name: |
Libertebelle/Alexandra |
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alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
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Hi All, I have been 'blogging' on a website started by Anne Rice, the author of books many of you are probably familiar with.
What you may not know is she is also a devout Catholic, who is currently advocating for reform in the Church -- particularly
given the current revelations about Benedict XVI and the pedophile priests he covered for while an archbishop. An America
priest in Massachusetts named Fr. Scahill is calling for the Pope's resignation in light of these disclosures. Followin from:
From Anne Rice:
st-michael@comcast.net
The above is the email of St. Michael's Church in Massachusetts where Fr. James Scahill spoke up for the victims and demanding
honesty from the Vatican. Anyone who wants to support Fr. James Scahill in his bold and honest move against the Vatican's
duplicity can email that address. I have already done so. A CNN story today said that emails are being received and only 2
have been negative. But if we don't support this priest, the defensive Catholics might yet overwhelm him or try to.
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To Peggy in ND. I wish I could say, "You have got to be kidding?" but nothing these guys do surprises me anymore ... Your
post also caught my attention because of the reference to "sex addiction." The Jesuit who abused me - yup, he's still a priest
- also turned out to be a sex addict who is supposed to be going to Sex Addicts Anonymous meetings for the rest of his life.
I strongly doubt that he is, though he was in therapy long enough the therapists made him tell me what his "problem" is.
Naturally, the priests would prefer that none of us go to the press? But when have you ever heard of the Church being fully
open regarding the real number of sex offenders serving in the priesthood?
To Peggy W in KC: wondering how the new job is going? Also wondering if you got my note referring E. Davie to you as possible
interview subject for your show? Otherwise, I figure you have more than enough to keep you busy! I don't know how you manage
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peggy,
I can send you my correspondence where
a clergy person tell me only to talk in
the confessional and not to media if
you blacken out names in the letter.
i am the Peggy from ND. can I have your
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submitted on March 12, 2010 7:31 AM EST |
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First, Hi Donald, Alexandria and Lillian and to everyone else that has signed since I was last on. The older the kids get
the busier we seem to get but it is a good busy.
Welcome Peggy in N.D., I find it fascinating that the powers that be continue to promote the abuser - whether it be to Abbott,
pastor, bishop, cardinal, or Pope. In any other organization that action would be ludicrious (then again in any other organization
raping children is ludicrious) but the way I see it is the men with secrets to hide will be the ones that keep the secrets.
So it only makes sense to promote the abuser since the Catholic Church is built on secrets of evil at the expense of lay
people. Like with any company, the higher the employee moves up the ladder the more the employee will learn about company
operations. Same goes for the 'employee' priest, as the 'man of God' moves up the Catholic Church ladder, more secrets will
be revealed and he has no choice but to keep those secrets so that his secrets may stay hidden also. Do you still have the
letter from the former abbott? Would you like to post your story on this website so that others might know his name and be
warned?
Take care of yourself and I appreciate you wanting to communicate on the website so that others might get something out of
our communications.
Peace,
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Yes! Fargo,ND started a SNAP-I believe by MN.director of SNAP Bob Schwiderski.
Fargo is close to 200 miles from where I live,I don't drive. thinking of
confidentiality in that group soooo.
Yes my abuser is now Abbot of Blue Cloud Abbey,Marvin,SD at the time he was just plain,father.he resigned once
abuse came to the front and then again
was elected-Jan.09-this guy is also a sex addict. after knowledge of his addiction he became vocation director
and teacher of new candidates, then moved on to prior of the abbey-2nd in command.the count at the abbey is 15
w/3 in Guatelmala.now they are renting
the abbey out for weddings and receptions(good pickings for him)this guy was my spiritual director. the diocese did acknowledge
he did abuse me .checked into it and thanked me for
contacting them and for making the diocese safer.took them 3 months to look at that.never talked to the vicar
or anyone in the diocese only the pastor I went to here.that's all that became of it.the former abbot of same abbey-sent me
aletter-nov.08- that I was only supposed to talk about any of this in confessional and not to the media.It would ruin this
guys reputation-since there is only the 12 members at the abbey.further more he asked me if this guy F.Denis should be
elected. how dumb because I would say No-I sent no reply. that was the day b4 thanksgiving of 08.have had no
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quite interesting how the bishops still
tell us it doesn't hppen in my diocese.
living in rural ND.is kind of like getting shut off from everyone else.
and to speak up brings alot of fear w/it. am wondering do you hear from any women in ND? I know there is fear even connecting
to someone in your own state and there is that sense of
confidentiality. anyway to connect to someone from ND? |
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Just wanted to say "HI" and have a healthy and happy 2010! Been really busy trying to get the book finished for the second
(and final) edit for summer release (I am so excited) and getting ready to go to the NYC in the spring...Call anytime at 815.978.8082,
24/7. Take care & until next time,
Peace In Your Heart, Mind & Spirit - Always,
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submitted on January 23, 2010 12:10 PM EST |
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Hi Mabel, I am so sorry to learn of the abuse you suffered as a child. While I have posted suggestions for how to deal with
this from a legal standpoint, the first priority is to find a therapist who can help you work through the unresolved feelings
and issues related to the trauma. Having the support of others who've suffered through having been abused as children, along
with having compensation for the trauma are fine, but the real work of becoming well recovered is up to the individual, in
partnership with a trustworthy therapist. I wish you all the very best with your recovery journey and know that others who
post to this guest book will have their own suggestions regarding what worked for them. |
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submitted on January 20, 2010 4:43 PM EST |
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I'm 43 years old when I was 9 thru 10 years of age I was malested. Every single day this though tortures me. I have to do
something or it will kill me. What can you recommend? |
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navigating the internet |
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submitted on January 16, 2010 11:35 AM EST |
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libertebelle |
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Many settlements for victims of clergy or religious abuse are accomplished out-of-court, as the churches typically want to
avoid the "scandal" of a public trial. One cautionary note should be added here: There is NOTHING that says settlement terms
must include a "non-disclosure" clause. I am here to state that any settlement agreement can be changed to eliminate the non-disclosure
aspect of the agreement. It is not a legal requirement that anyone sign away their ability to talk about their experience
of abuse, in order to receive compensation for the abuse. Though church leaders and their lawyers would have victims believe
otherwise, victims who ask the non-disclosure aspect be removed, can do so. Also, any agreements that claim to impose confidentiality
or hold-harmless terms on the family of a victim are invalid. A victim cannot sign away their family's rights, even though
church attorneys have been known to add clauses to agreements that purport to extend to the victim's family and heirs. The
church attorneys will tell you this is "standard wording" and that's only because most people don't challenge the settlement
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submitted on January 11, 2010 6:52 AM EST |
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Bonny, I am so sorry for all you have been through.
Alexandria, good advice - you are right, states are moving to towards changing legislation regarding childhood sexual abuse.
I also want to point out that just because a victim/survivor contacts an attorney doesn't mean you are going to sue or that
you are even ready to sue. Attorneys can make headway for their clients without having to go through a lawsuit. |
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submitted on January 10, 2010 10:07 PM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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Bonny, have you tried filing suit against the Louisianna diocese? In most states, the statutes of limitation on child abuse
cases have been abolished or lifted. It would be worthwhile for you to consult with an attorney who specializes in these cases,
to see if you have options. |
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submitted on December 25, 2009 5:13 PM EST |
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the nun that almost killed me was at
the doicese of Lafayette Louisiana
inside --a school--at age 8--
she was a nun named--smc
she was from sister of mount carmel
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submitted on December 7, 2009 2:41 PM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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If "they" acknowledge victims then they acknowledge their own potential to be vulnerable. The Catholics who've actually reached
out to me and have been supportive are people who are both very secure in their sense of self and they are not irrational
or superstitious. Insecure Catholics do not have a fully developed or well-grounded sense of their faith, much less Christianity.
People who believe in dogma and tradition, rather than truth, are coming from a place of fear. They are to be pitied, for
they feel - rather than think about - their opinions. Or how irrational is it, really, to continue to trust known predators,
as leaders, in preference to believing their victims? Think Stockholm Syndrome. Think Jones Town Massacre. The blind-sided
supporters of Voelker and all other predatory priests really aren't all that different. |
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submitted on December 6, 2009 10:37 PM EST |
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One of the most difficult aspects of my recovery journey was that when I (and other survivors who have gone before and will
come after me) wanted to heal our division with the Roman Catholic Church by asking for meetings or trying to find resolutions,
we were ignored.
Literally, the only time we actively hear from a Roman Catholic lay or religious person on this list is when they write in
to insult Peggy or put survivors down. The only sound received in the silence, is full of hatred. Imagine trying to heal through
that. Return to Mass? Catholics, you simply do not understand the depth and chasm of your silence on our hearts and in our
spiritual lives. The abuse and silence has destroyed more lives than my own. Some people have died from it. Imagine, coming
from a church that claims to LOVE? Love doesn't mean ignoring those you have hurt. LISTEN! |
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submitted on November 24, 2009 12:32 PM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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I wanted to add something else. Silence and keeping evil circumstances and people, secret, has much more insidious effects,
apart from protecting evil individuals. These circumstances leave other people with a false sense of security and safety,
because they are living in an illusion of reality. The same people who will picket abortion clinics and steer clear of pornographic
publications and movies will become blind-sided apologists and defenders of priests who are users and customers of these businesses.
Why is that? It is no less wrong when a priest uses tithes to pay for a woman he impregnated, to have an abortion or uses
the money to pay for a prostitute's services. But we are told we should forgive them their human weakness and frailty and
condemn the victims who expose the priests' hypocritical behavior. This is fundamentally wrong. The priests should be held
to the same standards they demand of their parishioners or step down. |
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submitted on November 24, 2009 11:55 AM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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Hi Lillian, It has been particularly interesting, as well as disturbing, for me as a non-Catholic survivor of Catholic clergy
abuse, to note how the entire concept of confessional confidentiality has been warped in the Church. Silence has been mislabled
a virtue, even when it covers for appalling evils. i have also noticed that many Catholic victim-survivors -- and Peggy is
an amazing exception! -- fall back on the worst of their Catholic inculturation when coming to terms with abuses committed
against them, by priests. They organize groups that function as super-secret confessionals and their recovery remains as mysterious
and silent, as the covert circumstances under which their abuse occurred. I believe that recovery from secret abuses, should
not be conducted in secret, or the victim never becomes fully-healed. Silent recovery enables the perpetrator priests; the
priests go on to abuse others when their victims engage in a recovery program that disallows identification of their abuser
at the public level. When I was offered a monetary settlement by the Jesuit Provincial who was Fred superior, I refused to
sign the settlement terms until he removed the non-disclosure clauses and the ridiculous hold-harmless clause that was to,
theoretically extend to my heirs. (It is, in fact, legally unenforcable, but that's beside the point) As I told the Provincial,
my experience of Fred (I refuse to call him Father) represented one fourth of my life, at the point he exited my life. Why
should I sign away my right to openly talk about 10 years of my life? I also told this superior that Fred's needs are no more
important than mine, before God, even if he does have a Ph.D. and Society of Jesus acronym he can add, after his name. Victims
are people who suffer in silence. Survivors are people who take back their lives on their terms. |
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submitted on November 24, 2009 10:23 AM EST |
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Hi Alexandria,
I just ran across a hateful Catholic on youtube. Ears are closed, and such anger towards survivors!
My 12 step process is in a Protestant Church,not Catholic. I do not trust the Catholic church because of their long standing
choice to be silent. Silence is faith turned inside out, the night to day. Silence is darkness to light. Silence IS faith
turned inside out. Sound is light to darkness. Talking sets us free. The first night of 12 step worked for me. I will not
give the RC Church free rent in my head. My children need me. I will continue to speak up and out against how they have handled
this. Sound is daylight to darkness. Sound is faith reborn. The silent treatment was wrong. Very wrong. |
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submitted on November 23, 2009 8:14 PM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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Hi Lillian, There WAS a clergy abuse survivor program that used the 12 Steps as part of their recovery program, until a new
president of the organization decided the Steps were not needed. And one of the advisors to that group also convinced the
president to minimize emphasis on support for adult victims-survivors. The advisor was a priest, which in turn led me to believe
he was assigned to undermine the group's original premise and emphasis. But it went further than that. The group disbanded
and no longer exists. Lesson learned from that: if anyone seeks to start a group for clergy abuse survivors, using 12 Step
principles, that also addresses adult victim issues, make darned sure still-active priests aren't on the board of advisors
or given access to survivor discussion boards, where they can create disruption and divisiveness. That said, I admire the
fact Peggy leaves critics' posts on this guestbook and responds to them with kindness. There is a Biblical passage that says,
"Do kindness unto those who do evil unto you, for it is like heaping hot coals upon their head." Amen. Even so, I long ago
recommended to Peggy, offline, that she steer clear of any still-active religious who volunteer to "help" her with this website
and her organization, because chances are very good that they really don't have her or other survivors' best interests at
heart. They are only interested in discrediting survivors and doing "damage control" on behalf of the church and priesthood. |
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submitted on November 23, 2009 6:06 PM EST |
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I recently joined a 12 step spiritual recovery program at a local church. Learning the 12 steps.
I long for the Survivor Movement to create its own denomination with a lot of healing retreats and a central core firm policy
against clergy abuse. I hope it will happen someday. A networking church that will bring us all into a place where we can
share sound over silence.
Thank God for Peggy. She is courageous in her overcoming and that is why we can share here. |
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submitted on November 23, 2009 1:49 PM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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Hi Lillian, All, I still find I have to work on the residual anger aspect of recovery. But I am fortunate in having many fine
examples of how to handle that, including Peggy, and my late sister in law, who never said an unkind word about anyone. But
you are correct in noting that many victims of priests manifest more Christ-like behaviors than the men who abused them. The
French have a saying that roughly translates as, "To know all is to forgive everything." With that in mind, and when I remember
to do so, I ask myself what happened in the lives of critics of clergy abuse victims, that causes them to be, sometimes, so
cold and mean-spirited toward victims? Don't you sometimes wonder if some of these people are victims as well? In fact, I
know this to be true in some cases. But instead of identifying with other victim-survivors, they come to identify with their
abuser or they blame themselves and feel too shamed to come forward. Criticizing us is a way of distancing themselves from
an inevitable confrontation with their own abuse. |
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submitted on November 23, 2009 11:27 AM EST |
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Hi Alexandria! It's great to see you back. Peggy, any way of starting a bulletin board? I know how, email me privately if
you want to know how to do that. I agree with you Alexandria, the choice Voelker's brother made to cuss Peggy out was very
inappropriate. Peggy responded back with out anger. We survivors work through our anger and find that we replace it with sadness
as we truly become survivors. The only anger here comes from apologists who defend wrongdoing. The voice to change is not
an angry one. It is courageous and without shame! |
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submitted on November 20, 2009 11:10 AM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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Referencing Dr. Mic's post, I would like to see your (Peggy's) show feature an episode on abuses committed by military chaplains.
When I was in the Air Force one of my roommates was a young woman who shocked me by showing me a book of love poetry that
had been written by a Catholic chaplain, who also wrote a personal dedication in her copy. She also showed me pictures of
them on vacation, together. As naiive as I was at the time, I was stunned. First of all, I knew Catholic priests took vows
of celibacy and chastity (even though I was not and am not, Catholic). Secondly, military protocol forbids dating relationships
between officers and non-commissioned personnel. She was an enlistee, he was a captain. Third, he was at least 25 and 30 years
older than her. I was only 19, yet I knew there was something very wrong with this "affair" even though I didn't know how
to explain it in terms of "power imbalances" and "sexual exploitation." I only knew this priest was inappropriately using
my roommate, despite her protests that she was a consenting participant.
I was relieved when I learned that she eventually married another, age-appropriate, "regular guy."
The priest was serving at an Air Force bas in Missippi. I neither recall his name or the base's location. I only recall that
he had a book of his love poems published.
In the years since then, I have often wondered what happened to my former roommate. Did she ever comme to the awareness that
her affair was really abuse? If she did, I hope she reported him, because given what I know now about this subject, I am quite
certain that she was neither his first victim or his last. |
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submitted on November 20, 2009 12:45 AM EST |
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Libertebelle |
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I logged on to post here because it's been quite awhile ... First, I moved back to my home state, then I plunged into work
as fulltime caretake for my mother who has Alzheimers, and part way through that sustained a nasty fall that resulted in a
fractured tibia and torn ligaments. I'm still wearing a knee brace. Today, a woman victim (adult) of a priest reached out
to me via email and that, in turn, caused me to log in here. I recommended this website, along with the books, The Betrayal
Bond and Sex in the Forbidden Zone, along with having told her she is welcome to contact me and 'talk' all she needs. Then
I get in here and see that an alleged sibling of Voelker's has posted smut directed at Peggy and to this site. I have only
one thing to add: If this is this sibling's idea of a good way to defend their brother the priest, he has merely succeeded
in proving Peggy's abuse accusations are probably valid. Or what right-thinking and pious brother of a priest could possibly
think that invoking four-letter words, in defense of the priest is going to reflect well on the character and reputation of
either? Get a clue! This doesn't make Voelker or his family look good or holy. You're only making yourself look bad, and your
brother the priest look guilty as ... |
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submitted on November 17, 2009 7:02 PM EST |
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Dr. Mic Hunter |
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Would you like to do a show on sexual abuse in the military by clergy? I am the author of "Honor Betrayed: Sexual Abuse In
America's Military." I also wrote "Abused Boys: The Neglected Victims Of Sexual Abuse." |
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Vikki sent me an e-mail that she is appearing |
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submitted on November 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST |
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Vicki Polin |
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Thank you for doing the work you do |
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submitted on October 27, 2009 1:08 AM EDT |
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Lillian |
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Peggy's website is definitely not a waste of time! Peggy is not an expletive either. She's actually a really neat person.
Sticks and stones. Surely you can do better than offenses. Voelker you call yourself? It is so tempting to get down on your
level of sadistic torment, but I won't...quick - go sprinkle some holy water on yourself...but be careful. You'll probably
get 3rd degree burns from it contacting your skin... |
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submitted on October 26, 2009 3:12 PM EDT |
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Peggy |
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Eric, Actually this site is not a waste of time because I get contacted at least once a week by women who are in the same
position that your brother put me in. It is through women supporting women that we are able to get through the trauma. I
hope your band is still making music and doing well. Take care and God bless. |
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jon doe |
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You waste your time with this site you evil CunT
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Your stuid face |
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jon doe |
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You waste your time with this site you evil CunT
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You waste your time with this site you evil CunT
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You waste your time with this site you evil CunT
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http://journalofovercoming.blogspot.com/ |
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submitted on October 25, 2009 3:03 PM EDT |
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Lillian |
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Hi Peggy,
We breathe because we live. When we speak out, we continue healing and continue to emerge victorious from the trauma. Because
we loved our Roman Catholic faith, losing faith in the church hurts even deeper. Comments such as "go back to Mass" don't
fix it. My friend and my husband are both suggesting I read "People of the Lie" by M. Scott Peck. My friend, who sells books
at our local mall, also recommended I read a book called Toxic Faith.
SOS is a critical emergency. When someone is drowning, SOS is an urgent call for rescue. To me, SOS means Sound over Silence.
Silence is a disease that has infiltrated the church. Anything that lives, makes sound. Bad Silence is inconsistent with a
living response of faith There are times when we are quiet and resting, but not at the expense of hurting survivors. They
won't speak to survivors. Survivors have Veritas. That is truth. We spoke up with the truth. Truth is at the heart of faith
and truth has sound and truth is victorious and overcomes.
Peggy, embrace your Veritas and those who recognize it within you and joyfully acknowledge you with faithfilled sound! SOS
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submitted on October 24, 2009 11:23 PM EDT |
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Lillian, After my press conference two siblings contacted me and question my speaking out. Their questioning really bothered
me and I spoke to my therapist. She reminded me that if they didn't care they wouldn't have taken the time to question.
She was right. Those that questioned me, through time and discussions, have come to understand the situation. But all of
my 'Christian' 'friends' at my former parish and my 'Christian' siblings and in-laws who turn from me and walk the other way
when they see me in the grocery store or when they get up and move when I sit next to them at family gatherings - those are
the ones that don't care. The ones who shun you and give you the silent treatment are truly the ones that you MUST distance
yourself from. They are living in darkness. You are now in the light and there you must stay by ridding yourself of negative
people and those that choose to continue living in the darkness even though the light is shining right in their face. They
choose to leave their rose-colored glasses on and continue living in their blind faith. Blessed be light and sound! SOS! |
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"The effects of ostracism are a health concern," says Kipling Williams, professor of psychological sciences who researches
ostracism. "Excluding and ignoring people, such as giving them the cold shoulder or silent treatment, are used to punish or
manipulate, and people may not realize the emotional or physical harm that is being done. |
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Peggy, keep speaking out with your courage and strength. The RC Church has to be purged. It's deviated so off the path of
what is acceptable and the values that we have come to know and expect of a denomination. We know the truth. The RC Church
dumped survivors in the trashcan of silence. But God did not.
When the soap is ready, I will send you a bar. Deo Gratias, Peggy. Thank God for educatingtoendabuse.com, for Peggy and all
those who speak out with courage, for behind their efforts is a courageous love for all the hurting. |
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submitted on October 19, 2009 12:06 AM EDT |
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Lillian,
Take care of yourself and keep making that wonderful handmade soap! You have a gift!
Peace and healing, Peggy |
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I am a soapmaker. Today I soaped my most important batch. Frankincense & Myrrh. I could have chosen to play a song, or speak
or sing myself. Instead I soaped it in silence. Silence out of respect to survivors like myself Peggy and others who cared
deeply about the church before the church used silence. I soaped it in silence for those who hurl hatred calling the one who
hurt me a expletive. Today I soaped this batch of soaps for the failures of humans and the promise of John 16:33. The church
should have never used silence. Today I made this religious batch os soap in silence.
Bonnie you post was very inappropriate and disrespectful to my healing journey. |
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Please contact me. I have questions regarding a priest on your site. Sincerely. MJ |
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lillian--how long are you going to talk about this bitch???? |
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My comments about the nun who did a topless massage on me were deleted at the soap guild level. The organization is defending
the Sister who did this to me. The Linkedin Group Soapmaking Moderator has chosen to remove my comments as to why I will not
join the guild, making the discussion not free speech, and submerging once again the truth.
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Welcome back Peggy, to this website that shares not only your pain, but the pain of many survivors. I note silence after
I wrote my last post. I hit the nail on the head didn't I. My thoughts and prayers go back to another nail. The one they drove
into the nail of Jesus' hand. Except the victim is the one hanging on the cross now. Jesus came for all this and the church
doesn't get it. The Roman Catholic Church will never get it as long as silence and anger form their response to the pain of
survivors.
When I was 19, I discerned for religious life. I was accepted, but I didn't enter. I am very glad that I did not. Because
I would have been one religious who would not have stayed silent, who would not have ignored the hurting. When I was in college,
one of the students there was violated. She was off campus the next day. The nuns got rid of her. Excuse me, but the last
time I checked, human beings were not trash you could dispose of. Change your heart, Roman Catholic Church. Veritas, change
your heart. Totus Tuo Ego Sum.
Peggy, I'm praying for you. I am glad you put the website back up. Keep up in courageous SOUND. |
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Something to share with Catholics reading this. We, survivors, were once devout Catholics. We remember. When you sing "Here
I am Lord" or "Awesome God" you rejoice, your heart filled with joy for Him, and although you do not want to admit it, contempt
for survivors because you simply do not understand. Those very hymns bring different tears to our eyes. They are tears of
pain, of alienation, of octracization. We can't sing them. We can't walk through your doors. When you post here in a derogatory
manner against survivors, the distance grows larger. Those of you who have defended those religious who crossed boundaries,
state that you believe in forgiveness. I don't understand why you did not give one iota of your energy to the people those
religious hurt - the survivors. They are the ones that truly deserved to be heard, so they could sing again. Until the day
silence is broken and accountability happens, your hymns will bring us pain. |
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submitted on August 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT |
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Thanks Peggy! I get my sutures out on Monday. I feel like the tin man, lol.
Thank you for your neat note. :) |
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John, Thank you for signing my guestbook!
Lillian, Another amazing poem from a talented, gifted, beautiful woman! Thank you for sharing it with the world! Hope your
recovery is speedy!
Love, peace and healing from Kansas! |
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