| submitted on May 6, 2009 11:37 AM EDT |
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Lillian |
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Peggy - if you could pass this on to SNAP. A new title for perhaps a future get together.
SILENCE IS VIOLENCE. |
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| submitted on May 6, 2009 11:35 AM EDT |
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Lillian N |
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There is one thing that puppy mill dogs and survivors have in common. We're treated pretty much the same way. Silence is
violence. Break the silence. Step down, those of you who assaulted us, in the name of the God you pray to, you need to step
down.
Those of you who are defending nuns and priests who have violated people are not doing anyone any favors. These things are
a trend. They can happen again. Do you want it to happen to your daughter, to your son? Purge the church. There are good
religious who never crossed lines. Leave them there. Please ask the ones who have deeply hurt people, once devout Catholics,
please ask them to step down.
We are not puppy mill dogs. We are human beings. Your silence, Catholic Church, is violence.
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| submitted on May 6, 2009 8:54 AM EDT |
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Peggy |
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pwarren17@cox.net |
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www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
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I am happy to see the guestbook used as a conversation tool! Who needs a discussion board :)
Alexandra, the Catholic Church is a master at diverting attention away from the elephant in the living room - my favorite
'argument' is 'but if we pay the victims all this money, it will take away from charitable work that we do' |
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| submitted on May 6, 2009 8:36 AM EDT |
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Hi Bonny, I was cursed/blessed with a mother who made me look up every word in the dictionary and left me with a huge command
of words. Sorry, it's the way I think and write. But I will rewrite what I wrote more plainly.
The priest believes that because Canada allows for legal abortions to take place, their courts have no moral to judge priests
and nuns who physically and sexually abused native Canadian children (they would be Native Americans or Indians in our country)
in Catholic schools. I told the priest the legalized abortion has nothing to do with victims of clergy sexual abuse. The Canadian
victims of clergy abuse deserve justice even if the priest is against legal abortion.
I was angry because he was trying to use another issue to take away attention from from the abuse issue. One has nothing to
do with the other.
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| submitted on May 5, 2009 11:11 AM EDT |
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liberty----about this heated arugement can you tell me "what in the hell are you trying to say and what do you mean in laymens
terms??" I dont understand what you mean --and my typed950 should be 1950--sorry about that |
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| submitted on May 5, 2009 8:08 AM EDT |
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libertebelle |
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Bonny, All, I got into a fairly heated argument (online) with a priest who believed that judiciary authorities in a country
that has legalized abortion have no right to judge religious who've committed sexual abuses. I maintained the two issues are
not relevant to each other and that it was a poor attempt to excuse priests' misconduct, by citing a non sequiter. The Church
would have us all believe that it is the duty of the victims to quietly forgive offending clerics rather than hold them accountable
for their misconduct. At one point, I asked myself if it really was 'fair' of me to expect more or less perfect behavior from
religious leaders? A Catholic friend who is also chief financial officer for an international corporation answered that question
for me when she noted that there are lay professions that hold out expectations of the person performing in almost perfectly
reliable and ethically unreproachable ways or they lose their jobs. Those professions include: accounting, piloting commercial
airplanes, medicine and psychiatry. I know, for instance, that a friend's daughter, a former dentist, lost her licensing after
it was discovered she'd been prescribing pills to herself. Imagine for one moment if that same dentist were instead, also
a priest. Instead of the license to practice being pulled, the offender would have been sent off to some therapeutic retreat
facility and the superiors would have intervened, along with a slew of lawyers, to make sure loss of licensing never happened.
Likewise, think of a priest as a airline pilot, found to have been consuming alcohol before flight time. If the Church were
in charge of the airlines, the priest would be given absolution, and allowed to fly, while still drunk. That's the kind of
sick, irresponsible logic the Church employs when dealing with religious misconduct. Damn the victims, and full-speed ahead
with promoting the clerics. |
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 9:59 PM EDT |
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now i want to say abuse is one thing but murder is another--the children that were murdered in `950 orway before were stuffed
inside a wall in a convent--that is owned by nuns---the children were skeletons found by the carpenters whotore down a buiding
some were as old a 7, other were found under floor boards of the place where suppose to be women of god??? some women??I think
peggey is more of a woman than them--this happened in my town---it is a fact--nice world huh? |
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 4:10 PM EDT |
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to---marie---who in the fuck do you think you are??a priest is suppose to have respect!, you may want to comment on the fucking
nun that abused me at age 8 and she was 31---what the shit was that? consensul??ha---now 8 lets see what we can dowith that?
that fucking bitch would act like a hyena in heat laughing---and i would wonder why? at 8 what is a touch? hmmm--now how in
the fuck and hell do you think about that---peggy 's site is a gods gift to the victims--and i praise her for it this is the
first time i feel good about myself but will the fucking priests and nuns retaliate? probably but i may just tell them to
: FUCK OFF!!!!!! I have enough of these fucking liers that have killed children in convents and otherwise--they are the killers---the
priests are being killed---that is what i hear
now i dont know who you are and i dont care who you are but if i would not have found peggy---i would still be depressed--now
i am not---she deserves a medal---i have no income --no money but she has my words--the truth is good write it that is what
i did for many years--these fucking childmolesters can go the fucking hell
and fuck off!!!!! |
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 2:33 PM EDT |
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Peggy |
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pwarren17@cox.net |
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www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
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Alexandria,
Thank you for your continued support of the women that sign this guestbook. Knowing you are not alone is HUGE! The reality
is there are millions of women that can relate. It does take work to build up that support system but it is possible and
incredibly healing. This website is here to be just one part of your support system - peace!
Peggy |
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 2:28 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
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pwarren17@cox.net |
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www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
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Bonnie, Your post is fine. This type of abuse brings out intense emotions. Perpetrators turning the 'sickness' around on
the victim is a typical senario in abusive situations. It is all a part of the abusive pattern, belittling, intimidating,
threatening, the victim. The part of these situations that infuriate me is that for the majority of the women, they end up
living in fear, when the fear should be in the lap of the perpetrator. The perpetrator should be fearing prosecution! Their
behavior is criminal and should be viewed as such in every state in this great nation. There are a few states that have criminalized
this behavior by these 'men of God', and many more states have bills in the legislative process of becoming law. Bonnie and
the other women living in fear, believe that the truth will set you free. Once you get your power back, these SOB, cowardly
wolves in sheep's clothing will never be able to hurt you again!
Peace and healing,
Peggy
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 2:05 PM EDT |
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Bonny, I'm sorry, I posted to "Dee" and it was a case of me not realizing that isn't your name. The comments I wrote were
intended for you, not the person who gave you information about this website. |
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 12:44 PM EDT |
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libertebelle |
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Dear Dee, We have all been called liars or told we "should have known better." It is the latter comment that astonishes and
angers me most. When a priest, a so-called moral authority can't exert control over himself, why does it become his victim's
responsibility to accept all the blame for his weakness?
I sympathize with your anger because I've been there. The majority of people favor the power-holder's perspective. Otherwise
they would have to admit that they are allowing themselves to continue to be led by someone who is dangerous and why are they
doing that? Secondly, it's easier to banish, intimidate or buy-off victims, into remaining silent. Excommunicating a priest
is a lot harder. It requires that people accept a much tougher reality, rather than continue to buy into a fantasy upheld
by dirty underpinnings. |
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 11:44 AM EDT |
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i wish i could be the woman your are peggy--strong but iam not---i still live in fear---but i wish i could talk like this----what
fucks me off is to try to say a woman is sick when she is telling the truth about sex abuse that is a damn shame it makes
me feel like telling the god damn son of a bitch he or she is a fucking lier--i hope this is legal and not too up front but
sometimes i get angry at people who lie about the truth---when i told the truth i was told also i was sick--so that is why
i still live in fear i will not publish my email---but you can email me peggy as you know i am from the south---bless you---you
have courage---this is a great site! |
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| submitted on May 2, 2009 11:06 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Libertebelle |
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alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
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Rev. Tipple, I'm glad you posted as you bring up yet another aspect of this form of abuse that is rarely discussed - clerics
abusing other clerics. The only case I know of that actually went to trial and resulted in an out-of-court settlement, involved
a Jesuit seminarian who sued for "sexual harrassment" after allegedly having been approached by superiors for sexual favors
in exchange for references and promises of speedy promotion within the Jesuit ranks. The first judge who heard this case declared
that it could not be tried in civil court, because to do so would violate separation of church and state laws. The second
judge countered by noting that separation of church and state laws do not exempt a church from being accountable to civil
laws that prohibit sexual harassment in the workplace. I extend this legal precedent to you, just in case you want to revive
your case. You are welcome to write to me offline. |
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| submitted on April 19, 2009 8:21 PM EDT |
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Rev. Joanna Tipple |
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revjo06@gmail.com |
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www.jo-seatosea.blogspot.com |
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Being victims of clergy sexual abuse - no matter who we are, must be dealt with. However, having taken the steps to hold
the perpetrator accountable even if the outcome was not what I had hoped for was what I did to no longer be a victim. It
also opened the door for others to come forward and help establish a pattern of behavior in the individual. |
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I found it while looking up an article about a follow-up situation in the case I was involved in. My google search listed
this site w/the original news article. |
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| submitted on April 19, 2009 8:21 PM EDT |
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Rev. Joanna Tipple |
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revjo06@gmail.com |
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www.jo-seatosea.blogspot.com |
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Being victims of clergy sexual abuse - no matter who we are, must be dealt with. However, having taken the steps to hold
the perpetrator accountable even if the outcome was not what I had hoped for was what I did to no longer be a victim. It
also opened the door for others to come forward and help establish a pattern of behavior in the individual. |
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I found it while looking up an article about a follow-up situation in the case I was involved in. My google search listed
this site w/the original news article. |
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| submitted on April 5, 2009 10:51 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Libertebelle |
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alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
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It is interesting to me (a non-Catholic survivor of clergy abuse, at the hands of a Jesuit) to note that Christine and Marie
choose not to post email addresses. If they had authentic courage of their convictions they'd be as open as Peggy and Brent
are in sharing their beliefs and identities. Also interesting to me that these self-appointed defenders of Voelker on Peggy's
website are women -- one of whom seems to be most impressed with Voelker's looks. Ladies, highly recommend you read up on
Rasputin and other historically notorious men of God who charmed and duped women right into ruin. Rasputin's biggest fans
and defenders were the last Russian czarina and czar who believed Rasputin was capable of providing miraculous relief to their
hemophiliac son, when all he really did was distract the boy from his hysterical mother. Rasputin duped the royal couple right
into ignoring incipient revolution, along with ignoring any complaints about him-- including from women he sexually abused.
History does repeat itself. If Voelker's got you believing that serving his needs and defending him is more important than
yourself or your relationship with God, apart from him, then you are indeed already blindsided. Peggy owes no apologies for
telling the truth about what happened to her and her family, anymore than I owe a certain Jesuit any apologies for having
posted public warning that he is a sex addict, who just happens to be wearing a Roman collar.
Unfortunately, women like yourselves aren't liable to heed the warnings from former victims, till it's too late. Just look
how long it took for the Church to wake up to the fact there really are pedophile priests. So, do you really think that priests
who are sex addicts and rapists of adults, could be far behind? |
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| submitted on April 5, 2009 9:47 AM EDT |
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I noticed the posts of those made calling Peggy disturbed and praising Voelker as a pastor. How can you in your right mind
promote someone who has crossed the line and damaged the life of a family with his actions? No matter what he did, you stand
by him, but you will not share a kind word or deed with the person he hurt. What kind of Christianity is this? Your pleas
of "go to the Mass, receive the Eucharist" meet my deaf ears. If he does it again, the sin will be on your hands, because
you stood by and did nothing. It's easy to take your stance, because it didn't happen to YOU. Let me tell you something. It
is extremely painful to have gone through something like this. I am also a survivor. 7 years later, I am on two heart medications.
You don't have a clue. You are supporting a predator. I know of a good many priests who NEVER crossed the line. What about
them? Don't you think you deserve a pastor who truly follows Christ in celibacy? What makes you think he won't do it again?
Are you that blind? Don't worry. I used to be that blind too. I was devoutly Roman Catholic in 2001, before a nun put her
hands on my chest in the form of a therapeutic massage and insisted it had to be topless. I played the guitar for Mass. In
my young adult years, I discerned for religious life. I wrote music. It's been destroyed by those hands. When you support
a predator, you are enabling him to do it again. If you need to pray, pray for your own blindness. You are enabling a predator
to hurt someone again. Would you set a murderer back on the streets? A predator is a murderer of souls.
It is NEVER a consensual relationship due to the power differential. Fr. Voelker abused this. He needs to step down! |
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SNAP |
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| submitted on April 5, 2009 6:00 AM EDT |
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Brent Warren |
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To all you so called "Christians" who keep posting on this site about how Peggy is a desperate, disturbed woman. You continue
to visit this site to try and find the answers that are there in the back of your head. Yes, Nick Voelker is a user and a
mooch. He won't change. For you to judge Peggy without talking to her directly and getting to know her makes YOU the biggest
sinner of all. JUDGEMENTAL HYPOCRITE. It wasn't just Peggy who was used by him, it was me, and my kids also. He betrayed our
trust, and is working right now to take advantage of someone else. Wether it be a steak dinner, a beer, a nice tight hug to
get his jollies, or using his position as a priest to play mind games with people. When it does finally click that there is
something seriously wrong with him and you realize he used you, Peggy and I won't JUDGE you, we'll be here to help anyway
we can. |
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My wife Peggy |
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| submitted on April 4, 2009 10:19 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
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pwarren17@cox.net |
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www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
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My brothers, my sisters, my blood, I AM DISTURBED ...damn that was a good concert Weds. night! Christine, thanks for noticing!
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| submitted on April 4, 2009 6:47 PM EDT |
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Father Nicholas Voelker is a wonderful, caring, compassionate Priest. The parishioners at St. Teresa feel very blessed to
have him as their pastor. All three parishes in Hutchinson, including St. Teresa, Holy Cross and our Lady of Guadalupe are
blessed to have Father Nick, Father Egbert and Father Brian Nelson. We are a strong tri-parish community. We love our Priests
and our parishes. I ask all of you to please attend Mass and Communion. Receiving our Lord's Body in the form of Communion
and his Precious Blood in the form of wine, is truly the path to correct thinking, correct living and Holiness. Satan would
like to warp your minds with sites like this. Yes, it is acknowledged that sexual abuse is a world-wide problem that infiltrates
communities and families of all race, color, creed and income. We do not understand. Please go back to church to find Peace
and healing. If abuse is suspected, report it and keep following up. Find yourself a qualified professional counselor, not
an emotionally disturbed woman to confide in like Peggy Warren. She needs desperate help. |
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| submitted on April 4, 2009 6:36 PM EDT |
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I am a parishioner at St. Teresa's, where Father Nicholas Voelker is currently assigned. Initially, people were confused about
Father Nick because of this site. After 9 months, it has become very clear that he is a wonderful, spiritual priest who truly
cares about each and every parishioner. He works very hard and he loves his parish. He loves the children and the school.
We love him too. He is not the monster that Peggy Warren would like for people to believe. Please see the news reports and
the District Attorney's interview. This was a consensual relationship between Father Nick and Mrs. Warren. It was wrong. It
required no further investigation. We are all human. Ms. Warren is extremely bitter that he did not leave the church for her.
He is a very handsome man and a very kind Soul. My heart goes out to all of you who were "truly" abused by clergy. My heart
goes out to all who were sexually abused and exploited by their own parents, uncles, aunts, grandfathers, teachers, ministers,
police officers, therapists, physicians. Need I say more? Why this has to happen is beyond our understanding. Truly, only
God can heal these wounds. Stay close to him and do not turn away from the church. Satan would like to keep you away from
the church with sites like these. This is only here to confuse you and keep you in the throes of hate, bitterness, and emotional
turmoil. Don't waste your time being emotional cripples. People need your talents for constructive healing things. Children
need you. My prayers will be with all of you. You are all so dearly loved by your Creator. Now, turn to Him for help. |
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| submitted on April 4, 2009 5:42 PM EDT |
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Michaelina bellamy |
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Thankyou |
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found it on the web |
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| submitted on April 3, 2009 1:59 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Robert VonZurLinde |
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boblinde@comcast.net |
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It tires me to see these pedophile, and Predators described as "Nice People". If they could not be in a position to "Act like
nice People", they could never get close enough to Women/Children/Men/ and others. These are Predators, and Pedophiles. They
have practiced the art of niceness, just to get close enough to practice their trade. Then they smile, and act pretty holy,
especially in some of these instances, and act as if They are the ones who are being violated. I have studied these freaks
for many years. They have no remorse, and will attack a vulnerable victim as soon as they can. Then they expect pity. Especially
if they get caught, and exposed. believe me, that doesn't stop them, it only puts them on hold for a little while. How do
I know all this?? Just read below. What has made it so bad for me, and many others, is The Nightmares, and The terrifying
memories that even money can not make go away. Read this and remember it. Predator's, and Pedophiles can, and will never be
cured, regardless of how many times the Authority tries to shift them around, and hide them behind Robes, and Gowns. You that
cover for them, are just as guilty. Those of you that have been violated, and just sit back, and do nothing, are letting these
predators, and Pedophiles get away with it. What has happened to so many of us, NEVER goes away. We try to push it back as
far as we can, but being violated such as many of us here have been, always pops its ugly head up. I have myself watched a
nun murder Little Gilbert Bonneau. I have received beatings, and types of torture that you can only imagine. As a little boy
orphan, with no one to turn to, I was an easy score for rape, and beatings. When I tried to describe it to an authority figure,
I was called a liar, and was beaten, and put in a dark closet with stinking mops, and other cleaning utensils, and fluids.
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| submitted on March 30, 2009 8:49 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Maria Taylor |
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mdptaylor@comcast.net |
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I want to tell my story would LOVE the opportunity to speak out against clergy sexual abuse. I thank God that I found your
Web site just now. Since being sexually violated by my former beloved minister seven months ago, I have regularly been checking
the Internet for helpful information and was pleasantly surprised to discover your site moments ago. ... After struggling
and growing through some semblance of the healing process, I am now actively looking for ways to speak out for myself and
the countless numbers of women who are suffering in silence. I was also delighted to see that legislation is being considered
that would include clergy, which is something else I myself had planned to check into as well. As I've read several books
and visited many, many sites, I am continually amazed at the complexity of clergy sexploitation and fully plan to do whatever
I can to help bring about changes so these ministers will come to see that they can no longer continue to abuse women and
cozily hide in secret behind their church doors with church members in collusion. Thank you again for this wonderful Web site.
I feel quite encouraged because I've been telling myself all along that although I'm only one voice, I will use my one voice
along with all of the other voices to help bring about change despite the fact that many have been discouraging me from speaking
out. I thank God for you and your Web site. Please, please keep up the good work!!! |
| How did you hear about this site? |
LINK from Website ... The Silent Majority: Adult Victims of Sexual Exploitation by Clergy |
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| submitted on March 23, 2009 7:06 PM EDT |
| Name: |
LiberteBelle |
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alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
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Oh, and what has Voelker's looks that you, Marie, deemed "very handsome" got to do with anything that's right and holy? If
a priest is most conscious of the impact of his appearance on women, then he has no business being a priest! The late Mother
Teresa was, believe it or not, a very beautiful society girl before she was called to serve. As I recall, she actually spent
her life taking care of the sickest of the sick on a daily basis. She didn't concern herself with whether or not she was maintaining
her looks while performing God's work. Voelker and his 'fans' should take note. That is the measure of a true religious vocation:
in sacrificing the vanity for the vocation. |
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| submitted on March 23, 2009 5:56 PM EDT |
| Name: |
LiberteBelle |
| Email Address: |
alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
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To "Marie" who posted, whether Voelker or supporter, I have to question your perspective regarding what a priest should and
should not be if you think even a "consensual relationship" -- which implies the priest consented to it even if the victim
maintains she did not -- is acceptable for a priest, vowed to celibacy? Had that priest been a lay man, insinuating himself
into a married couple's lives, no one would be quick to forgive that man, nor follow up by asking him to preach moral tenets
to others. What kind of a priest hits on a married woman and thinks it's still all right to still lay claim to being a Man
of God? What kind of priest thinks it's okay to say Satan detoured Peggy away from the Church, rather than take responsibility
for his own misconduct having been at fault? Priests take on a so-called alter cristi role, yet I defy anyone to tell me in
what ways Voelker's conduct with the Warren family was in any way Christ-like? It was more like he was a true wolf in sheep's
clothing.
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| submitted on March 23, 2009 9:21 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Fr. Voelker - aka Marie,
Glad to see you are still visiting my website, maybe you will eventually learn something and leave 'ministry'.
God Bless,
Peggy |
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me |
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| submitted on March 21, 2009 3:45 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Bob,
Thank you for this info! Those interested should get on Steve's mailing list - Steve, thank you for all the work you do to
support victims/survivors!
Peggy |
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me |
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| submitted on March 21, 2009 3:29 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Bob Schwiderski |
| Email Address: |
skibrs@mchsi.com |
| Web site URL: |
http://www.snap-greatplains.org/ |
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| submitted on March 21, 2009 10:36 AM EDT |
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I am a parishioner at St. Teresa's, where Father Nicholas Voelker is currently assigned. Initially, people were confused
about Father Nick because of this site. After 9 months, it has become very clear that he is a wonderful, spiritual priest
who truly cares about each and every parishioner. He works very hard and he loves his parish. He loves the children and the
school. We love him too. He is not the monster that Peggy Warren would like for people to believe. Please see the news reports
and the District Attorney's interview. This was a consensual relationship between Father Nick and Mrs. Warren. It was wrong.
it required no further investigation. We are all human. Ms. Warren is extremely bitter that he did not leave the church for
her. He is a very handsome man and a very kind Soul. My heart goes out to all of you who were "truly" abused by clergy. My
heart goes out to all who were sexually abused and exploited by their own parents, uncles, aunts, grandfathers, teachers,
ministers, police officers, therapists, physicians. Need I say more? Why this has to happen is beyond our understanding.
Truly, only God can heal these wounds. Stay close to him and do not turn away from the church. Satan would like to keep
you away from the church with sites like these. This is only here to confuse you and keep you in the throes of hate,bitterness,
and emotional turmoil. Don't waste your time being emotional cripples. People need your talents for contructive healing things.
Children need you. My prayers will be with all of you. You are all so dearly loved by your Creator. Now, turn to Him for
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| submitted on March 16, 2009 2:57 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
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www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
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Hi Brian,
Thank you for posting on my guestbook. You bring up a very important point that even if the relationship is not of the professional
nature, the doctor/cleric and other high power professions can still use their status to get what they want. I have been
contacted by many women who while not parishioners of the cleric's church, met the man outside of the church setting, knew
he was a cleric and that automatic trust still occurs and they end up getting used and abused. Which is understandable, society
teaches that we can trust police officers, doctors, clerics, judges, teachers, etc... - they are all in the 'helping' professions;
therefore, should be a good person, one that can be trusted. Which reminds me of the recent story of the two pediatrician
brothers that were molesting their young male patients. Who would have ever thought? Definitely not the parents. Most of
us put our children in the care of these trusted professionals without a second thought. I want to educate society, bring
awareness to the fact that unfortunately no one should 'automatically' be trusted, not with our children, and not with ourselves.
Peace,
Peggy |
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| submitted on March 16, 2009 1:14 PM EDT |
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One more thing Brian. Thank you for citing the fact the power differential exists even when a cleric is dealing with someone
who is not of their denomination or faith. Existing and even reformed laws do not cover this. I happen to fall in that category
as I am a non-Catholic who was duped and seduced by a Jesuit, who wasted 10 years of my life "grooming" me, along with several
other non-Catholic women, because he believed that targeting women not of his faith is, "less of a sin." I didn't get the
last laugh, but I did get the last word in having publicly outted him, via the media. That was as much as I could do at the
time, to warn women away from him ... In this case, having criminal penalties in place against a cleric becoming sexually
involved with a congregant or someone he or she counsels wouldn't have helped me, unless I was able to prove beyond all reasonable
doubt that he misrepresented his priesthood to me and used it to seduce me. He did all that. But because current laws don't
cover abuse of non-congregants, much less congregants, he had a very good thing going for him, until I outted him as being
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I'm responding to Brian's comments.
Power differential is clearly recognized as being a coercion factor, in every state's professional conduct codes, when a psychotherapist
engages in sexual misconduct with clients. The fact clerics have "flown under the (legal) radar" for so long simply attests
to their long-standing ability to misuse their men of God mystique, to deflect attention away from their personal misconduct.
Even clerics who have committed acts of outright sexual assault, rape and battery -- that otherwise qualify for prosecution
under conventional laws -- have repeatedly managed to elude prosecution by citing victim consent! Whatever misbehavior, up
to and including murder, would cause the average man on the street to receive a prison sentence, has been unfairly sidestepped
by Catholic (and other) clerics for centuries. Or why I've joined Peggy in trying to amend my own state's professional conduct
codes, to include clerics. |
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| submitted on March 14, 2009 5:33 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Brian Heard |
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justabrother@gmail.com |
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http://victimsover18.blogspot.com/ |
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Regardless of professional status or not, most sexually abusive relationships with adult victims are not recognized as such.
Sexual coercion of adults can be thought of as the "non violent" version of rape (or the grown victim version) of child/teen
molestation.
Because the perp uses persuasion against a grown victim, the fact she's victimized won't enter her mind.
Though it's not accepted by most, a few researchers have come up with "status coercion," where a professional's standing in
the community actually changes the power dynamics of a sexual relationship with a NON-client or NON-parishioner.
Because a woman (or man) is sexually involved with a proffesional, the standing itself even without professional involvement
may be enough to exacerbate power differences.
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| submitted on March 9, 2009 10:14 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Keysa Grable |
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http://www.militarycorruption.com/grable.htm |
| Comments: |
Thank you for doing what you can to stop the abuse! Although I am not a Catholic, I can sympathize with the victims of abuse.
http://www.militarycorruption.com/grable.htm |
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just surfed in |
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| submitted on March 1, 2009 8:17 PM EST |
| Name: |
Nina |
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ninagarcia86@yahoo.com |
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I am doing research regarding assaults on women in the SDA church by the clergy and lay leaders. I know it exists just kept
very quiet by the church. I am looking for stories from violated women and stats.
Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. From my dealings with this church they do nothing unless it is public.
I intend to write a book with stories and other info to expose what is happening in the SDA church and to help those abused
by the clergy.
Kind Regards,
Nina |
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research for a book |
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| submitted on February 2, 2009 1:50 PM EST |
| Name: |
Libertebelle |
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alexandria.roberts@comcast.net |
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Mary, you pose a very interesting question with respect to whether or not it is possible to eradicate abusive human tendencies?
I have often wondered as much myself. A study of primates (baboons)that was conducted over two decades for the purpose of
observing effects of stress that parallel human responses, led the researchers to conclude that both aggressive and non-aggressive
behaviors are learned, rather than than innate. When aggressive male baboons died from eating poisoned meat, the more passive
males who remained instituted a calmly organized society in which all surviving baboons thrived and lived in peaceful coexistence.
This led the scientists to in turn conclude that human beings, presumably possessed of higher level brain functions than their
primate antecedents, could effect the same sort of peaceful social order, if they would but determine to do so. |
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| submitted on February 2, 2009 1:01 PM EST |
| Name: |
Mary Treherne |
| Email Address: |
mstreherne@gn.apc.org |
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www.dunwanderinperss.org |
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To end all sexual abuse, harder questions need to be asked about human nature itself. Those who want a solution and have both
the courage and honesty should check this link:
http://www.energon.org.uk |
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Google link |
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| submitted on January 28, 2009 10:06 PM EST |
| Name: |
Neil |
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smartnews@aol.com |
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http://ritualabuse.us |
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We have a section on clergy abuse and stopping child abuse at http://ritualabuse.us If possible, please add these to your
links page. Thanks. |
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| submitted on January 22, 2009 5:36 PM EST |
| Name: |
Michael Baumann |
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michael.baumann@cox.net |
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Thank you for linking my blog page to your website! I think stories such as yours are as important to the fight against clergy
sexual abuse/assault as the stories of those abused as children. Keep informing all who will listen.
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I saw a referral to my blog from your site. |
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| submitted on January 7, 2009 9:56 AM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Hi Libertebelle, it is heartbreaking to hear from so many woman who are suffering in silence fearing the backlash - but there
are courageous women that are taking action, most recently in the state of Mass., we should be seeing a bill in the upcoming
legislative session and we are working on getting a bill introduced in Virginia and of course here in Kansas. Great job,
Ladies - we are making a difference! |
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me |
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| submitted on January 7, 2009 9:21 AM EST |
| Name: |
Libertebelle |
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fleurdartichaut2002@yahoo.com |
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The statistics on abuse of adults by clergy - male or female - are at best, good educated guesses at this time - largely because
this issue continues to be concealed for the most part and can't be prosecuted in most states. Though it's probably safe to
estimate that for each of those victims who has "gone public" with their story, there are at least 3-5 other people who have
not. I once attended a SNAP event where I was the only adult survivor who introduced herself as an adult victim-survivor.
After the meeting was over though, I had four women come up to me and tell me that they too were victims. I asked them why
they hadn't spoke when they had the opportunity, as I had, and most said they were "too afraid" or "embarrassed" or that their
abuse happened "too long ago to matter. now." It is sad to me that so many people have suffered, alone, with this out of fear
of being publicly stigmatized and ostracized. To be sure, adult victims don't receive a great deal of sympathy, but I believe
if more came forward, along with more people working to educate the public, like Peggy is doing, we would receive the validation
necessary, so we can in turn initiate legal reform to protect adults from clergy abuse in the same ways psychotherapeutic
clients have legal recourse when psychiatric professionals inappropriately engage in sexual relations with patients. |
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from Peggy's postings elsewhere |
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| submitted on December 13, 2008 8:08 AM EST |
| Name: |
A Friend |
| Email Address: |
healingtreesformen@gmail.com |
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healingtreesformen.wordpress.com |
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Thankyou for the courageous work you are doing. I admire you. I noticed your statistic about 90% of abused are women. I
think the stat may change a little when all the men speak up
Regards T |
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Michael Baummanns site link |
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| submitted on December 2, 2008 9:46 AM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
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www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Dear Suzanne,
I am sorry about your situation and then for him to be back on the pulpit is just another punch in the gut. But that is the
way it usually goes within the church with adults that are exploited. Yet, I think we are making headway within the general
public. This exploitation is so widespread, people are beginning to hear of, witness, and experience it themselves.
Thank you for signing my guestbook.
Take care of yourself! You are worth it!
Peace,
Peggy Warren
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| submitted on December 1, 2008 9:27 PM EST |
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Suzanne Cyr |
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cyr-n-ity@maine.rr.com |
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Praise God! Finally, I found validation.
My minister of seven years groomed me, manipulated me, found guilty of "misconduct" and allowed back at the pulpit to prey
on other parishoners. |
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Author of "Innocense Betrayed" |
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| submitted on November 24, 2008 12:46 PM EST |
| Name: |
Libertebelle |
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fleurdartichaut2002@yahoo.com |
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I'm feeling as if I should apologize, perhaps, for having presumed into the dialogue between Peggy and Katherine as being
deadlocked in angry assumptions on both sides. Instead, I'm going to bow out of comments on that and introduce myself. My
story is among the adult abuse stories posted on this website. I went public with my story because I knew the priest who abused
me was targeting non-Catholic women, specifically, because he thought it was "less of a sin."
That said: Katherine, I do know that the extent of the sexual abuse of others by priests is far more extensive than any good
Catholic wants to know or believe. Priests have been operating on the myth that it's possible to sustain vows of celibacy
and chastity for life, while tacitly "getting a little on the side" (and that's a direct quote from the priest who abused
me) for centuries. They've further assumed that parishioners support them in the unspoken contradiction -- which in large
part they have -- that at the public level they are sexless, but what priests do in private is "no one's business" unless
it becomes a source of scandal. I maintain the problem is having this unrealistic expectation, that in turn inevitably results
in people being hurt, on the sly, in support of the myths of celibacy and chastity. |
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| submitted on November 22, 2008 1:03 PM EST |
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Response to Katherine part 2 |
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Katherine,
Thank you for your response and your honesty. I don’t view our communication as arguing but as a worthwhile discussion. You
write that the sexual abuse in the Catholic Church is not widespread. How do you know? Have you research the subject? This
is my experience after I started speaking out. When I told my dad, he told me his sister, was molested by a priest in the
Wichita Diocese when she was a child. My boss’s grandfather-in-law was molested by a priest in the Wichita Diocese when he
was a child. My boss was propositioned by a clergyman from another denomination. A co-worker’s husband was molested by a
priest in the Kansas City Diocese when he was a child. I went to Border’s bookstore looking for a ‘self help’ book, the
saleslady told me she was molested by a seminarian at summer camp when she was a child. I went to a meeting to tell speak
about KSHB2206, a woman told me her co-worker’s mother is being sexually exploited by her priest in the Dodge City Diocese.
There has been a snowball effect. How can you dismiss the tens of thousands of children that have come forward with credible
allegations of abuse? Research shows that only 1 in 10 sex abuse victims ever comes forward, for clergy abuse victims the
numbers are much larger, some experts estimate 1 in 40. Absolutely God ‘allowed’ this to happen for a reason. There are
many but one that is clear is the fact that my children are more educated regarding predators/red flags, etc and in turn are
safer now than if this would not have happened. It is great that you are educating yourself, whether you agree with me or
not, I do believe the more you know will make you safer. Take care of yourself and those around you.
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| submitted on November 21, 2008 11:11 PM EST |
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Continued:
Judging you for your allegations and arguing with you is pointless. I honestly don't know what happened between you and Fr.
Voelker. I still think that this situation was the devil's work. And yes, it was the devil's work. He weaves temptation into
the hearts of men, which leads them into sin (by their own free will). God allows this for a reason.
I've actually thought a great deal about this issue. Maybe God allowed Fr. Voelker into your life for a reason. Whether I
like it or not, you are making yourself known. You seem to be somewhat comforting others through your experiences and advocating
to end the few abuses that do occur. I'm glad that you are helping others, yet I don't think it's right for you to be slandering
the Church and it's priests. |
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| submitted on November 21, 2008 11:11 PM EST |
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Katherine |
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You write as if sexual abuse in the Catholic Church is widespread; it's not. You are no better than Fred Phelps and his goons
in the depiction of the Church and it's ministers as if they followed Freud's theories devoutly.
You are correct; I am young and naive. Am I sheltered? Absolutely. However, I do believe that I am making an attempt at "educating"
myself. By visiting this website, I am trying to understand your ideas.
Yet, I am obviously not as attached to this issue as you are. I still believe that you need to take a step back from this
situation and look at your actions and statements. You are hurting yourself by not only your actions, but by the type of language
you use. If you are wishing to be taken seriously, don't use terms such as "dry-humping" and "screwing." It's unnecessary. |
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| submitted on November 21, 2008 4:22 PM EST |
| Name: |
Libertebelle |
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fleurdartichaut2002@yahoo.com |
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It is so typical for defenders of Catholic priests -- note: defense of priests is, NOT synonymous with a being a defender
of the faith -- who've been exposed as womanizers, predators, and abusers to go after the victims of priests.
In 1992, Annie Murphy publicly disclosed the fact she had born Irish Bishop, Eammon Casey, a son. Self-proclaimed "good Catholics"
anonymously wrote things to her that no "real Christian" should write to anyone -- to having threatened her life and property.
In defense of victims of priests, including myself, I have to say I have found these vehement reactions on the part of parishioners,
particularly shocking. I think it's most reflective of the fact that the priesthood has done a terrific job of brainwashing
most followers into believing that priests are ultimately blameless, even when proof of their wrongdoing is (literally) staring
others in the face.
Not all priests are bad or abusive of others. But before anyone defends any priest against his accusers, he or she should
first think: why would anyone just make this stuff up, when they know the reaction they'll receive?
In my own case, I actually withheld the most damaging facts about my own abuse from public disclosure, because some of the
information would have hurt people apart from the guilty-as-hell priest. I felt I had no right to disclose other than the
facts of my own case, even if the added info supported my case.
Another observation: my experiences as
a clergy-abuse survivor and advocate for the past eight years have taught me, among other things, that it's rarely productive
to get into a long, rancorous stand-off with anyone over this issue. If it becomes obvious that a common-ground perspective
cannot be arrived at on any point or level, it's probably best to cut the dialogue short.
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| submitted on November 17, 2008 12:45 AM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy Warren |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
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response to Cathy Brewer |
| Comments: |
I don't need your permission. Go ahead and
'get legal advice', they will tell you there is nothing that you can do. Unless you find an attorney who will take your case
just to take your money and boy those kind are hard to find. HAHAHAHA
You write "I e-mailed you privately and did not criticize or slam you publicly on your web site. " Right again, Cathy, you
didn't "criticize or slam" me publicly, you did it privately, like the COWARD you are! No wonder you want to support Voelker,
you two are one in the same, COWARDS!
You write, "That was very cruel of you." Thank you, but really you need to look in the mirror.
You write, "I am not sure what to make of "why" she posted my private e-mail message to her on this site" Well, Cathy, I am
not sure why YOU have such a problem with me posting your email on my website, do YOU have a problem with what YOU wrote?
Cathy, here’s a little advice, if you want the parish to move forward, then ask Bishop Jackels to remove Voelker.
If you don’t like what my website is all about, stop visiting it. If you don’t want me to post any more of your emails, then
stop emailing me. But, my best advice to you is what the therapist at Catholic Charities told me, “Stay away from Fr. Voelker.”
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| submitted on November 17, 2008 12:35 AM EST |
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Cathy Brewer |
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Peggy,
Please take my messages off of your guestbook. I did not give you permission to post that. I intend to get some legal advice
to see if anything can be done to remove my message. That was very cruel of you. I e-mailed you privately and did not criticize
or slam you publicly on your web site.
Cathy
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| submitted on November 17, 2008 12:32 AM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy Warren |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
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Response to Katherine part 3 |
| Comments: |
This past year in Minn., MN, a three yr old little girl was molested by her parish priest while he was also screwing mom and
the VICOR GENERAL got him back to his home country of Ecuador only to continue abusing. Google Cardinal George in Chicago.
Read about after he knew Fr. Dan McCormack was molesting boys, AFTER THE REVIEW BOARD TOLD THE CARDINAL THAT HE SHOULD REMOVE
FR. MCCOMACK, Cardinal George let Fr. McCormack stay in ministry and continue to molest 3 little boys, ONE ON A DAILY BASIS!
If that isn’t condoning child rape, I don’t know what is. Your statement is based on ignorance - please educate yourself.
Bishop Jackels did believe what I said because VOELKER DIDN’T DENY ANYTHING! And Jackels wouldn’t have given me a penny
if he didn’t believe what I was saying. Take my advice and don’t ever tell a sexual assault victim to “just get over it”,
that is a big no-no. You write, “Don’t be so defensive.” Wow thanks for that brilliant advice! Let me tell you, when someone
hurts my family the way Fr. Nicholas Voelker hurt mine, I will get defensive like no other! Katherine, you will be in my
prayers so that you might become more educated. Peggy
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| submitted on November 17, 2008 12:31 AM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy Warren |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
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Response to Katherine part 2 |
| Comments: |
I don’t give a damn what you call me or think of me. This website isn’t for you - it is for the thousands of women getting
sexually exploited on a daily basis by their parish priests. As far as, priests that like to rape children, or ‘splinters’
as you call them, - raping children is man’s work - FREE WILL! I find it humorous when people say ‘it is the devil’s work’,
ok, let’s blame it on the devil and forget the fact that God gave us free will. Katherine, THE CHURCH HAS ALWAYS CONDONED
RAPING CHILDREN AND STILL DOES! People that know the abuse of children is happening and allows it to continue ARE CONDONING
the behavior. You need to educate yourself - go to www.bishop-accountability.org or Google Catholic sexual abuse and EVERY
abuse story has a COVERUP! Do you realize FIVE boys from the Wichita Diocese killed themselves because the Wichita Diocese
COVERED UP the fact that Fr. Robert Larson liked to rape little boys! THE WICHITA DIOCESE KNEW LARSON WAS RAPING LITTLE BOYS
AND THEY LET IT CONTINUE! That is condoning. |
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| submitted on November 17, 2008 12:29 AM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy Warren |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
Response to Katherine part 1 |
| Comments: |
Katherine,
If I subbed for you at SEAS, you must have just graduated high school. Ah, to be 18 yrs old again, life is great, not a care
in the world ! Katherine, if you believe I am overreacting because a Catholic priest tried breaking up my marriage, then
I guess you don’t value the sanctity of marriage like I do. You need to reread my story, I absolutely played a part in what
happened, I let him back into my home after he said he was going to do something to me! What the hell was I thinking? I wasn’t,
I was just told by my parish priest that he was getting aroused by me and that he was going to do something to me! His spiritual
advisor/priest says don’t worry about it. Voelker has me believing I am having post-partum depression after his statement.
I didn’t know what to believe or what to do. I was as naïve, very much like yourself. You write that I say “all priests
should leave the priesthood because of a few of their brother priests’ actions.” I never wrote that. Let me educate you,
a ‘few’ priests as YOU write, is well over 4,300 US priests like to rape children. When you write ‘you were obviously in
no condition to take care of us.’ Absolutely! It had only been a few months since the assault, I was in the midst of tremendous
effects of PTSD. I would be triggered every time I stepped foot on SEAS property. As you read in my story, it was so bad
that I got the PFA on Voelker so that he could not go on SEAS property. Katherine, you need to get out and go to a rock concert
and realize that you don’t need to be drinking to feel like you have a hang over the next day. |
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how convinent on the tails of the other Catherine |
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| submitted on November 16, 2008 9:35 PM EST |
| Name: |
Katherine |
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Continued from last comment:
To say that all priests should leave the priesthood because of a few of their brother priests’ actions is ridiculous. The
Church has splinters that occur, but that is just the devil’s work. The Church has never condoned this behavior. Believe what
you wish, but that statement was not a result of being a “brainwashed” member of Catholicism, but it was a statement based
on reason.
I believe that Bishop Jackels made the right decision. You were obviously unstable at the time. How could he trust your word
or the word of your young daughter? This was Fr. Voelker’s life that was on the line. Take Fr. Billinger’s advice and just
get over it, or if you must keep “counseling” others, don’t be so defensive. You are just hurting your cause. |
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| submitted on November 16, 2008 9:35 PM EST |
| Name: |
Katherine |
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First off, I want to tell you that after reading your's and your husband's story and also seeing the pictures, you almost
waved me. Then I began to look through the surface. So far, what I've found is a grave overreaction by a desperate woman trying
to make her actions seem justifiable. They aren't. You, whether you admit to it or not, played a part in what happened.
I have been a parishior of St. Elizabeth all my life. I'd like to share what I remember about you:
You were substituting my class at St. Elizabeth grade school. You acted sickly and told the class to be very quiet. You said
that you had a huge headache because you had gone to a Metallica concert the night before. I remember you even complaining
about board cleaner being sprayed near your face and that it made you nauseated. Later on, my classmates and I put two and
two together and realized that you probably had a hangover. You were obviously in no condition to take care of us. Your decision
to substitute that day shows how irresponsible you were. How can I believe that you were the victim in this whole situation?
You could have just been irresponsible during the times you were with Fr. Voelker. Now, don’t think that I’m calling you a
succubus, but I’m just saying that you played a part in this situation. |
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I actually was searching google for the Diocese of Wichita. Your name came up, so I decided to search you. I found this lovely
piece of work and decided to read it. Loved the voice over by the way. |
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| submitted on November 16, 2008 8:57 PM EST |
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Catherine Brewer |
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To anyone reading this site. I sent a private message to Peggy, begging her to end her allegations about our current Parish
Priest, Father Voelker. We want to go forward in our parish. I did not post on this site. I am not sure what to make of "why"
she posted my private e-mail message to her on this site. I did not give her permission. |
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| submitted on November 14, 2008 9:10 PM EST |
| Name: |
Kay Goodnow |
| Email Address: |
Kay4Justice@msn.com |
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Peggy, as you know, there are all kinds of brainwashed idiots walking around these days. Please keep on educating through
your blog and your marvelous show. One day people will awaken to the concept that Freedom of Religion also means Freedom
From Religion and all that those words entail! |
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It's well known to me. |
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| submitted on November 14, 2008 2:57 PM EST |
| Name: |
part 3 response to Cathy Brewer |
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response was to large to post in one guestbook spot |
| Web site URL: |
educatingtoendabuse.com |
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I actually find your emails quite comical, so please keep writing, trying to convince me to stop my rambling, as you say.
Fortunately we live in the greatest country (renewed hope with the election of Obama!) on earth that protects freedom of
speech.
You also suggested that I get some professional help. Well, I have thanks to the tithes of the good people of the Wichita
Catholic Diocese. You might want to contact the diocese and ask for some professional help for yourself. You write as
though you are not ‘playing with a full deck’ - “grave, grave danger of your Soul” ooooo I’m scared. HAHA. “You are playing
in the Major Leagues?“ That the fuck? HAHA Yes, I know that I am criticizing the largest organized child pedophile ring in
the world. You are right, those are the “Major Leagues”. HAHA. Let me suggest a great therapist at Catholic Charities right
behind the Chancery, she told us that Voelker was a predator and that we needed to stay away from him. Oh, but that is exactly
what you don’t want to hear. I am sure you can find a therapist that will tell you what you want to hear, although all of
the therapists that we have talked to, my therapist, Brent’s therapist, my daughters therapist and the therapist at Catholic
Charities, have all said the same thing - Voelker is a predator!
You will be in my prayers,
Peggy
P.S. If you are so bitter because you aren’t getting any action from Mike, ask Voelker to service you. I am sure he would
be more than accommodating.
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me |
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| submitted on November 14, 2008 2:56 PM EST |
| Name: |
part 2 response to Cathy |
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response was to large to post in one guestbook spot |
| Web site URL: |
educatingtoendabuse.com |
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You wrote that you chose not to sign my guest book, so I will do it for you with your hilarious email. You are a coward just
like all the rest of the so called ‘Christians’ that do not have the courage to speak to me directly. Why didn’t you ever
email me back? Did my emails make a little too much sense and you were questioning your perception of Voelker? By you continuing
to read my website and emailing me again, it does give me faith that you are obviously questioning and that is great!
I am NOT convince that you ‘totally understood (my) suggestion to him to find a job in a men’s clothing store, unless you
are aware of Jeff Fasching. He was the predatory priest that Voelker replaced in Council Grove. After the Wichita Catholic
Diocese removed Fasching and told him that he was not allowed to present himself as a priest, Fasching went to work at a local
men’s clothing store. I was only suggesting that Voelker might want to walk in the footsteps of his mentor, Jeff Fasching.
By the way, that ‘message to Voelker’ has been up on my website since day one, you must have just missed it the other times
you have visited my website. The main page is filled with a tremendous amount of information and with those thick rose colored
glasses that you are wearing, it is not surprising you missed it.
You write, “It will come back to haunt you. What you do to others to hurt them, will be done to you.” Is that a threat?
Bring it on bitch. You sound like you need to leave the Catholic Church and go join Fred Phelps’ church in Topeka. It sounds
like both of your ideologies are on the same page.
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me |
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| submitted on November 14, 2008 2:53 PM EST |
| Name: |
part 1 response to Cathy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
educatingtoendabuse.com |
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Dear Cathy,
Good to hear from you again. I was especially thrilled to read that I was doing ‘heavy damage’ to (your) Parish. There
must be some really smart people at St. Teresa’s. Your husband being one of them, oh, wait, he isn‘t going to St. Teresa‘s
anymore, he is REALLY smart. Has Mike found a new church or hopefully a new religion? You think I am not getting enough
attention, you might want to consider that same thought regarding your husband. That poor guy is obviously lonely. I would
suggest that you focus your attention on Mike and not on Fr. Voelker or myself. When I responded to your first email, Mike
was the one that emailed back, in fact, we emailed back and forth several times. Mike was very troubled about Fr. Voelker
and the negative effect the situation with Voelker was having on you. It undoubtedly has caused a riff in your marriage,
you need to focus on Mike, get your marriage back on track, you know divorce is out of the question in the Catholic faith.
Although I am sure Voelker would be more than happy to help you with an annulment.
I don’t know how to convince you, Cathy, that I don’t care what people think of me. I knew when I held my press conference
that some people would see me as an adulteress and I didn’t care because I knew the truth, my husband knew the truth and that
is all that matters to me. I knew as a responsible Christian that I needed to warn others of a sexual predator in their midst.
Do you think I could teach Catholic Bishops a lesson or two on social responsibility? HAHA
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me |
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| submitted on November 14, 2008 2:45 PM EST |
| Name: |
Cathy Brewer |
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Peggy,
I wanted to sign your guest book and tell the world what I thought of your cruelty to Father Voelker, but I chose not to.
I see that you added a new message to your web site - specifically a message to Father Voelker. My impression is that you
are still in love with him and you miss him terribly and you want him to leave the Priesthood. I totally understood your
suggestion for him to find a job in a men's clothing store. What an interesting suggestion. We are getting to know Father
Nick here at St. Teresa's. You have done some heavy heavy damage to our Parish. How will you answer to God for that???
I am going to be brutally honest. Many people at St. Teresa's see you as a scorned lover who wants to protect the financial
security of your marriage; yet you still want to have a love affair with a Priest on the side. I am at a loss as to how to
convince you to withdraw your ramblings from the internet. It will come back to haunt you. What you do to others to hurt
them, will be done to you. You think "I" do not understand. "You" do not understand the grave grave danger that your Soul
is in. You are playing in the Major Leagues. Get some professional help because it is obvious that you need excessive, unreasonable
amounts of attention, and you will get it any way you can.
Cathy Brewer
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Fr. Nicholas Voelker |
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| submitted on November 14, 2008 1:30 PM EST |
| Name: |
Loren Harkay |
| Email Address: |
lorenharkay@comcast.net |
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Peggy,
Your are an strong, bold and beautiful woman and do not let anyone or anything stand in your way!
Love
Loren Harkay |
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| submitted on October 17, 2008 8:22 PM EDT |
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http://azavbfbmcpik.com/ |
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| submitted on October 3, 2008 11:54 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Donald Bondick |
| Email Address: |
dbondick@comcast.net |
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http://survivorsofclergysexualabusefortruthandjustice.yuku.com/bsurvivorsofclergysexualabusefortruthandjustice |
| Comments: |
Keep up the great work Peggy! What you are doing is protecting today's and tomorrow's children so that they do not have to
endure the lost childhoods/young adulthood, like so many of us did. Peace in Your Heart, Mind and Family,
Donald |
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From Peggy - of course! |
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| submitted on August 12, 2008 10:36 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Bob,
I am not surprised you are back - you are a fighter! You are strong and courageous - thank you for continuing to speak out
and educate! |
| How did you hear about this site? |
me |
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| submitted on August 12, 2008 10:32 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy Warren |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Becky,
I am glad you found us - women need to stick together, support one another and continue to educate in order for change in
attitudes to take place which will result in justice for victims.
Peace to you!
Peggy
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me |
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| submitted on August 12, 2008 10:16 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Robert VZL |
| Email Address: |
boblinde@comcast.net |
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http://boblinde@comcast.net |
| Comments: |
Thanks for any prayers you said. I made it through, and now I am feeling better than ever. Even got some hair on my head.
Back to fighting for victims. |
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peggy |
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| submitted on August 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Becky Bell |
| Email Address: |
rmb2425@aol.com |
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| Comments: |
Bravo!! It is great - well, not great but....to hear of this website and another woman passionate to educate others about
this horrendous crime. |
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Janet Clark |
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| submitted on August 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT |
| Name: |
amy weber |
| Email Address: |
darth_amius@yahoo.com |
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Hello Peggy
I too was sexually assaulted; by my doctor in the course of treatment for cancer. I know how easy it is to excuse the questionable
behavior and give the perpetrator the benefit of the doubt. We wouldn't do those horrible things, so we can't conceive those
with whom we have entrusted our lives doing them either. We tell ourselves we are mistaken, until it is too late...and you
find a doctor reaching his hands up under your clothing to fondle your breasts.
As I have read on other websites, and I agree, it is the way the entities that are suppose to help us, but instead continue
to protect the perpetrator that hurts the most. For that, I suffer the most.
I hope that one day I can tell the world that Dr Timothy J Kinsella of University Hospitals/Case Western Medical Center in
Cleveland,OH sexually assaulted me. I want the world to know that prior to be hired, his employer knew of his "difficulties"
and the hundreds of victim he left behind. His employer knew that his fellow physicians alleged that he over-radiated his
patients 3-4 times the required dose for personal financial gain. Many news articles out of Madison WI described this and
more, yet they hired him and put more patients at risk. After my assault, he was removed as the Chairman of the Dept of Radiation
Oncology, yet he still has constant access to patients. His defense was to blame and attack the victim by saying that I dressed
scantily and was coming on to a radiation therapist young enough to be my son. He said I brought "boob cakes" into the cancer
treatment facility. His defense was no defense, but that didn't seem matter to his employer. They didn't seem to notice the
danger of employing a physician who has constant access to women's bodies, but considers "dressing scantily" a valid excuse
to sexually assault a patient.
Amy Weber
Take care!
Amy Weber |
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via other sites |
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| submitted on July 4, 2008 12:48 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Hi Wendy,
I am so sorry to hear of your abuse - for the bishop to not move this priest is reprehensible. Therapy is a great thing if
you have the right therapist - keep going as much as you can if it is helping. Wendy, knowing that you are not alone is the
greatest help for all of the women that have been exploited because initially we feel that we must have done something to
initiate the clergy person's behavior, we feel stupid, that we should have known better but the reality is - MILLIONS of women
that are exploited by these men are not stupid, there was no reason we should have known better - they were are spiritual
guides! There is no reason we should have known that these 'men of God' wanted something more from us than to help us know
God better. I am happy to see that you are in contact with SNAP, if that is how you found out about my website. SNAP was
instrumental in my healing process. What diocese are you speaking of? I would be more than happy to contact them. Take
care of yourself, remember you are your first priority! Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
Peace and healing,
Peggy |
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me |
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| submitted on July 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT |
| Name: |
wendy benaquista |
| Email Address: |
wlb12342001@yahoo.com |
| Web site URL: |
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| Comments: |
Dear Peggy,
I was abused by my pastor this past March and April before I finally stopped it. I reported him to the diocese. I don't
want to sue him or the church. I don't want money. All I asked was for them to move him out of the parish so I can continue
to go to Mass there and send my children to the parish school. The Bishop won't move him. All they did was put him in counseling.
They are paying for my counseling as well.
Thank you for your website. I don't know why but it helps tremendously to know I am not alone.
best wishes,
wendy |
| How did you hear about this site? |
SNAP |
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| submitted on June 29, 2008 1:34 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Robert |
| Email Address: |
boblinde@comcast.net |
| Web site URL: |
boblinde@comcast.net |
| Comments: |
Dearest Peggy, and all of you that have suffered. I do not know how much longer I have to be with you. I have just gone through
chemo for malignant polyps, and hope they got it all. I get barely $500.00 a Month to live on, and when I get my medicine,
I have to split it, so the co-pay isn't more than I can pay, but please, just pray for me. I know my work is not finished.
There are so many of us that have been abused by Clergy in one way or another, but then there are those that are innocent,
and don't know how these predator's lurk around them. They visit the family, take a special interest in one or two children.
I just ask you to be aware when Adults pay unusual attention. Make sure that you "Wise Up" the kids. Don't be afraid to share
some "Street Smarts" with eachother, and children. Give those that you love some good information, so you won't be surprised
one day. Remember this also, predators, and pedophiles know their craft very well, and are professional deceivers. Be informed,
and always aware...Please! |
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peggy |
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| submitted on June 25, 2008 8:39 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Bob,
I find you amazing! - You keep fighting for this little boy even when your health is suffering. I understand your need to
speak for those who cannot speak for themselves.
Peace to you and take care of yourself,
Peggy |
| How did you hear about this site? |
me |
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| submitted on June 25, 2008 11:09 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Robert |
| Email Address: |
boblinde@comcast.net |
| Web site URL: |
boblinde@comcast.net |
| Comments: |
Recently I viewed the farce which was the visit of the pope. Here he was grinning fom ear to ear, and blessing everyone in
the crowd, not caring if they were Communist, Perpetrator's, Predator's, and of course, those of us that seem to be at the
totem pole, THE ABUSED. I thought about the Jesuits who surround him(well armed) I might add. I wrote a letter to the pope
at the address at the vatican. I know that any pope never gets to see what the jesuits don't want him to see, or hear. I wrote
that letter knowing this, but hoping that in some way, one letter might get through. If it doesn't, at least it was another
opportunity for me to write on paper, Some of the Tortures, and murders that I have recieved, and seen with my own eyes. Gilbert
Bonneau was three, or four feet from me when he was smothered. There are so many of us, but unless we can get through, we
are left to suffer, and eventually die. |
| How did you hear about this site? |
Peggy |
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| submitted on May 24, 2008 6:07 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Hi Shawn,
Nice to hear from you. You finally have built up the courage after 4 yrs to finally communicate with us. I am proud of you!
This topic is a hard one to discuss. But I am puzzled, why now? Why after 4 yrs? Is Voelker still in you and Mary Jo's
life? Has he started to rub his erection on Mary Jo or is he still just mooching money, gifts, and booze off of you? Is
that what is troubling you? Has Voelker finally gotten on your last nerve? If so we are here for you, unlike when we needed
you and you turned your backs on us. I am just sorry that Bishop Jackels has moved him closer to you - Voelker will be at
your house 3-4 times a week again. Better stock up your fridge.
You and Mary Jo will be in my prayers.
God Bless
Peggy |
| How did you hear about this site? |
me! |
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| submitted on May 23, 2008 11:05 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Shawn Evans |
| Email Address: |
rxsdevans@aol.com |
| Web site URL: |
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| Comments: |
Peggy and Brent,
Take some responsibility for your own actions. You two are hurting your children with all this nonsense.
Peggy,I saw how you dressed when we all wnt ut for dinner. I saw how you acted. He was wrong, but you are no victim.
Brent, admit that your wife wanted someone other than you. What were you not giving her.
All this whining is to ease your own conscience. Move on. |
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| submitted on April 22, 2008 7:41 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Rowie Manlapaz-Quimson |
| Email Address: |
rowie@eaglescorner.com |
| Web site URL: |
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| Comments: |
I'm glad to have found your website. Thank you for writing about the adult victims! I've been thinking of writing a blog
on my own experience. I,too, was a clergy sexual abuse survivor and was abused when I was 23-30 by two priests. |
| How did you hear about this site? |
google |
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| submitted on April 14, 2008 5:46 PM EDT |
| Name: |
Helen Wisocki |
| Email Address: |
betrayedbyclergy@comcast.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.innocencebetrayedbyclergy.com |
| Comments: |
Bravo, Peggy! Your Educating to End Abuse interview last week was very inspiring! Keep up the great work and for giving
people the opportunity to have their voices heard. |
| How did you hear about this site? |
friend |
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| submitted on March 27, 2008 11:09 AM EDT |
| Name: |
Kay Goodnow |
| Email Address: |
Kay4Justice@msn.com |
| Web site URL: |
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| Comments: |
This site is an excellent source for information and support! I am a survivor, and after a lifetime of silence, I am finally
free! |
| How did you hear about this site? |
Filed a lawsuit and was contacted. |
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| submitted on February 17, 2008 9:04 AM EST |
| Name: |
Robert V.Z.L. |
| Email Address: |
boblinde@comcast.net |
| Web site URL: |
N/A |
| Comments: |
Maureen, I am so sorry to hear of the abuse that snuck up on you like a rattlesnake. There are many thousands of us that have
been, and still are dealing with these abuses. I beg you to expose the Pervert that has abused you, so that others will also
have a chance to avoid that particular Predator. You do not need to "Belong" to any Church or organization that abuses you
in any way. There are many places that will welcome you with open arms, and never even think of abusing you. Please, for your
sake, and many others, expose this Predator/Pedophile. Now if you don't want to be in contact with them, just let me, or Peggy
know. We can write some dandy letters that will make him think he was on candid camera all the time. You will also feel so
much better. Be sure, and get away from them, far away. |
| How did you hear about this site? |
Peggy |
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| submitted on February 12, 2008 3:43 PM EST |
| Name: |
maureen van der most |
| Email Address: |
maureenmichele@hotmail.com |
| Web site URL: |
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| Comments: |
just trying to come to grips with understanding and coming out of it,hopefully,a 'relationship' or 'friendship'between our
Pastor and me.I am in the midst of pain and disbelief.All what has come up in this subject applies to me and the whole situation.
Thank God for these websites. I wish there were even more adult stories and more in depth analysis of these charismatic ,charming,lovable
saint priests who at the same time can have easily different sexual relationships,which are in fact abuse cases....hidden....keeping
the secret is vital because Loyalty is the nr.1 rule to be able to belong..... |
| How did you hear about this site? |
just tried to google and this came up |
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| submitted on February 6, 2008 11:38 AM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Bob,
Great advice!
Thank you,
Peggy |
| How did you hear about this site? |
me |
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| submitted on February 6, 2008 10:23 AM EST |
| Name: |
Robert V.Z.L. |
| Email Address: |
boblinde@comcast.net |
| Web site URL: |
N/A |
| Comments: |
It is my prayer that most of you that have come here, have found at least a small bit of consolation, if not a lot. Let me
add this to the list of Awares. Whenever we see ANY clergy being transferred into our places of worship, always check them
out, and what they left behind. Due to the extreme shortage of new Priests ETC., the church is now even trying to hold on
to their Pedophiles, and Predator's. So, as in the case of a Priest within The Albany Catholic Dioceses, just recently. Of
course they have moved many of them over the years, and Bishop Howard Hubbard is the responsible one in that area.Please remember,
wherever you worship, if you see someone new coming in, "Check Them Out". Now this is not only advice from me, The Scriptures
tell us" To Know Them that Labor AMONG us". Be Sure, and Be Safe. I pray that your pain is easing up.
Bob |
| How did you hear about this site? |
Peggy |
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| submitted on January 19, 2008 4:28 PM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy Warren |
| Email Address: |
pwarren17@cox.net |
| Web site URL: |
www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
| Comments: |
Hi Annie,
Thank you for your support on Kansas HB2206. While I understand your concern about abortion and NOW's support of Choice,
I believe it is a tragedy to think of women and girls in such a desperate situation where they resort to abortion a possibly
would not have choice. When I think of the alternative, to have abortion criminalized, those reprocutions are just as tragic.
Illegal abortions being performed in which the baby may survive or not and of course situations where the procedure would
be extremely life threatening to the female. And what kind of punishment would the justice system enact on those women and
girls who are already in most cases in tramatic situations? Since the assault, I have had the priveledge to get to know numerous
couragous child abuse victims, their stories of abuse have made me physically ill and have kept me up many nights, a few women
that I have spoke to had babies by priests at very young ages, the youngest being 12 yrs old, I can't imagine telling them
that they had to go through with the pregnancy and that they didn't have a choice. Abortion is a horrible tragedy but my
belief is that precious little life is going to go right back to his/or her creator. I don't see life in black and white,
there are many gray areas and whether you are pro-life or pro-choice we need to work together to make this world a safer place
for future generations.
Peace,
Peggy |
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| submitted on January 19, 2008 2:38 PM EST |
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Annie |
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anncar@juno.com |
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Peggy,I'm with you on your effort to amend the KS laws. But abortion is the ultimate child abuse,so how can you accept support
from NOW? |
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| submitted on January 18, 2008 10:27 AM EST |
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Robert |
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boblinde@comcat.net |
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Dear kelly... I am so sorry to hear that your name is now numbered among the many of us that were abused. Somehow the word
ABUSE does not seem to fit actually what happened. Here you are, so many years later, and I don't know if this is the first
time that you have said something, but let me let you know that you are not alone. There are thousands of us, and our help
comes from eachother. Just being able to speak about it takes a great leap of Faith, and will result in you finding many new
friends that have been through it. As for me, at the age of 64, I have still not been able to swallow the bitter pill. That
is because I stuffed it for so many years until I just blew a proverbial gasket. Now it is my mission in life to expose any
and all that I know have harmed anyone while hiding behind "The Robe, Collar, And Gown". Kelly, you just remember that there
are so many of us, and now that we know your name, we will pray for you, and be here for you as much as we can. When I sit
down at my computer everyday, my first two hours are dedicated to exposing Pedophiles, and Predators, especially the ones
who hide behind, "The Robe, Collar, and Gown". Be strong, Kelly, and The rest of you, MY FRIENDS. |
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Peggy |
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| submitted on January 16, 2008 1:10 PM EST |
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Peggy |
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pwarren17@cox.net |
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www.educatingtoendabuse.com |
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Donald,
I appreciate your kind words and thank YOU for all you do for victims of all types of abuse.
Peace,
Peggy |
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| submitted on January 15, 2008 12:23 PM EST |
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Donald Bondick |
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dbondick@insightbb.com |
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http://p068.ezboard.com/bsurvivorsofclergysexualabusefortruthandjustice |
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What a great site Peggy. Keep up the great work that you do for all survivors of physical, mental or sexual abuse! We support
all your efforts and really enjoy your show once a month.
Peace Always,
Donald Bondick
Rockford, IL |
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http://p068.ezboard.com/bsurvivorsofclergysexualabusefortruthandjustice |
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| submitted on January 2, 2008 3:24 PM EST |
| Name: |
Peggy Warren |
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pwarren17@cox.net |
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educatingtoendabuse.com |
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Bob,
Thank you for your continued support. Keep speaking the truth and living in the light.
Peace,
Peggy |
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| submitted on January 2, 2008 1:33 PM EST |
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Robert VonZurLinde |
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boblinde@comcast.net |
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To all of you that are standing with Peggy, and also with the many who have been abused, and even murdered, let me wish you
a very Happy New Year, and lets pray for some justice in 2008. God Bless You. |
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Peggy |
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| submitted on December 21, 2007 10:03 PM EST |
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Kelly Dann |
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Kelly_dann@yahoo.com |
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I was just goggling catholic clergy abuse and came across this web site. I was physically abused by a nun in the 3rd grade
1977 @ St. Adalberts School in Elmhurst NY |
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| submitted on December 18, 2007 12:23 AM EST |
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Ironman |
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Lucy,
Voelker humped a married woman's leg while he holds the postion of a celibant catholic priest.
Now, how enlightening is that? |
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| submitted on December 17, 2007 3:02 PM EST |
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Peggy |
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pwarren17@cox.net |
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educatingtoendabuse.com |
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Hi Lucy,
I would encourage you to ask Fr. Voelker the next time you see him or read the posts from the SNAP board from him that I have
on my website - they are quite enlightening - yet shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that has dealt with perpetrators before
- it is never their fault, the victim came onto them and in cases of adult clergy sexual abuse the woman is always the seductress.
Or maybe the next time you are around the cathedral stop in and talk with Msgr. Hemberger or Bishop Jackels and they could
enlighten you. I am sure you would be very impressed. If you have any other questions or comments feel free to contact me
by phone, it is a local call so we could talk for hours couldn't we, "Lucy". 993-4675
Peace and prayers.
Yours in Christ,
Peggy
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| submitted on December 17, 2007 2:14 PM EST |
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Lucy |
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It would be enlightening to know his side of the story. |
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| submitted on December 15, 2007 10:01 PM EST |
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Mela LaJeunesse |
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lifegiver_57@msn.caom |
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Thanks for this website. It is helping to open my eyes about Priest abuse of adult women. I now realize I am one of these
women. |
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While in google, I was searching for Women being abused by priests. |
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| submitted on December 7, 2007 10:34 AM EST |
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Robert Von Zur Linde |
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boblinde@comcast.net |
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n/a |
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I hope that you have listened to a part of The story of St. Colmans, and Gilbert Bonneau, below. I wish all of you a very
Merry,and Blessed Christmas. Nothing is going on now in dark closets, it is out in the light for everyone to see. A very special
Thank You for my friend, Peggy. |
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| submitted on December 1, 2007 3:33 PM EST |
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zissa |
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zisska@msn.com |
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Great up date. |
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